[AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs? Getting my foot in the door?

Tue Dec 23 18:55:41 EST 2014

Hopefully their exam simulation stuff improves. Twice now I've done an exam
and you do something slightly unexpected that's not covered by the text
book (but would satisfy the question requirements) and the simulation
completely breaks. And not in the since of the network stops working, the
actual simulation software does things that just repeats the same command
over and over again without letting you enter in any input. Naturally the
exam moderator where I do my exams doesn't even know how a router is meant
to react nor knows how to tell Cisco that their sim is faulty so I get a
failed exam and down a bunch of my own money. In the end I just rote
memorized the solution off some website command for command so that the
friggin sim wouldn't crash. Yes I feel dirty doing it that way which is why
after that cert I haven't done any exams (even though I covered the
material).

Interested to see the future of network/communications qualifications...

On 23 December 2014 at 17:12, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:

> On the topic, Cisco have identified textbook CCIE’s as an issue, they are
> in the process of redoing all their certification tests to better align
> with real world skills, with a lot more simulations and lab tests and a lot
> less multiple choice etc.
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> I know the CCNP TSHOOT exam has been redone as all simulation situations
> with real equipment configurations etc, I know CCNP SWITCH and ROUTE were
> pending the changeover when I last did any of them (a year ago roughly)
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> I think it’s a very good idea and I’m glad that it is happening,
> certifications are not worth a lot if you can hold one without actually
> understanding what you have learnt….
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> Thanks,
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> Ayden Beeson
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Cameron
> Ferdinands
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 December 2014 6:05 PM
> *To:* Skeeve Stevens
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs?
> Getting my foot in the door?
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> That's my one of my favourite interview questions.
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> "Whats your favourite routing protocol?"
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> There only wrong answer is reading a line from a textbook, if you love RIP
> tell me why you love RIP! What's good about it? What's bad about it?
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> On 23 December 2014 at 08:58, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
> Yup.. had about a dozen last year.  And then even if they do have good
> theoretical knowledge, the other thing missing is experience, common sense
> and product knowledge.  Being a CCIE/NP and not being able to recommend a
> switch model is annoying (for me).
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> ...Skeeve
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> On 23 December 2014 at 08:54, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I think we've all being in that interview (or heard second hand) with a
> textbook CCIE and when pressed can't seem to explain the simple things.
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> experience is where it's at.
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> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com>
> wrote:
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> --- Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com wrote:
> From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>
>
> Then I would have a look at real work experience,
> not certification boot camps..
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> I wish more folks did this instead of starting off
> interviews with cert-style questions, which seem to
> only test rote memorization skills.
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> scott
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