[AusNOG] Work experience in networking/telecoms/DCs? Getting my foot in the door?

[Beeson, Ayden]

On the topic, Cisco have identified textbook CCIE’s as an issue, they are in the process of redoing all their certification tests to better align with real world skills, with a lot more simulations and lab tests and a lot less multiple choice etc.

I know the CCNP TSHOOT exam has been redone as all simulation situations with real equipment configurations etc, I know CCNP SWITCH and ROUTE were pending the changeover when I last did any of them (a year ago roughly)

I think it’s a very good idea and I’m glad that it is happening, certifications are not worth a lot if you can hold one without actually understanding what you have learnt….

Thanks,
Ayden Beeson

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Cameron Ferdinands
Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2014 6:05 PM
To: Skeeve Stevens
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That's my one of my favourite interview questions.

"Whats your favourite routing protocol?"

There only wrong answer is reading a line from a textbook, if you love RIP tell me why you love RIP! What's good about it? What's bad about it?

On 23 December 2014 at 08:58, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
Yup.. had about a dozen last year.  And then even if they do have good theoretical knowledge, the other thing missing is experience, common sense and product knowledge.  Being a CCIE/NP and not being able to recommend a switch model is annoying (for me).


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On 23 December 2014 at 08:54, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com<mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we've all being in that interview (or heard second hand) with a textbook CCIE and when pressed can't seem to explain the simple things.

experience is where it's at.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com<mailto:surfer at mauigateway.com>> wrote:


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From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com<mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>>

Then I would have a look at real work experience,
not certification boot camps..
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I wish more folks did this instead of starting off
interviews with cert-style questions, which seem to
only test rote memorization skills.

scott









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