[AusNOG] Scaling beyond 1Gbps transit

Wed Sep 25 12:50:46 EST 2013

I note the documentation states 1.5mil IPv4, but <512 routes for ipv6.. 
is this a typo, or is it tuneable?

James Braunegg wrote:
>
> Dear James
>
> We had this very debate back in 2010 we were using Cisco 7200 G2 at 
> our pop sites and they would just die under pressure .... Even more so 
> when you started to flow traffic.
>
> We looked at the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe and Juniper MX routers all of 
> which were stupidly large from a capacity point of view .... We ended 
> up choosing the Brocade MLXe platform and it's been a choice which I'm 
> very happy with..... Lots of ports, lots of capacity and huge amounts 
> of performance.
>
> That being said as mentioned you also have the Brocade CER RT which is 
> a 1RU box like a MLXe but cut down in physical size single routing 
> engine but still supports 4 x 10gbit interfaces and 1.5 million routes.
>
> Kindest Regards
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> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Colin Stubbs
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:44 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Scaling beyond 1Gbps transit
>
> Since a bunch of people chipped in with the ASR option, which are 
> great and can be quite attractive with the lower end/priced 
> bundles..... a few words of warning.
>
> They're complicated boxes so make sure you're familiar with the ASR 
> architecture including what components exist within each box. In 
> particular what components have their own discrete memory; along with 
> what those memory requirements will be within your particular network 
> using your particular configuration.
>
> e.g. If you take MPLS all the way to the edge and are encapsulating a 
> full Internet routing table that will impact memory requirements 
> within the ESP. There are workarounds but on 1K consider an ESP 10G at 
> a minimum.
>
>
> Colin Stubbs | Equate Technologies
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> On 24 September 2013 18:00, Lindsay Hill <lindsay.k.hill at gmail.com 
> <mailto:lindsay.k.hill at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There are some ASR1K bundles you can get that include reasonably 
> priced 10Gb ports.
>
> If you don't get those ports via the bundle price, then yes, they blow 
> the cost out of the water. I've seen some scenarios where it's almost 
> worth buying a 1001 just to get bundled 10G adapters, that you then 
> use somewhere else.
>
>
> On 24/09/2013, at 7:24 PM, Tom Lanyon <tom+ausnog at oneshoeco.com 
> <mailto:tom%2Bausnog at oneshoeco.com>> wrote:
>
> > On 24/09/2013, at 4:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens 
> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com 
> <mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
> >> 600Mbps is almost the limit for a 7201 (1Gig TP maximum theoretical).
> >>
> >> Go an ASR1002 or Juniper MX5 - both make great cheap bgp border 
> routers.
> >>
> >> Yes... 10Gb interfaces is the way to go.... or just multiple 1Gb 
> upstreams?  With that much traffic, you should be diverse anyhow.
> >
> > 10Gbps interfaces are still relatively expensive[1] on the ASR1000 
> platform, when you consider the pricing of 7200 series[2] gear which 
> it is replacing.  Is the situation better with the MX?
> >
> > I don't have any experience with them, but would an ASR9001(-S) 
> actually be a better choice for 10Gbps, considering the 4x built in 
> 10Gbps SFP+ ports and cheaper-per-10Gbps modular port adapters?
> >
> > -Tom
> >
> >
> > [1] Somewhere around $12k for a single port SPA-1X10GE-L-V2?  and 
> some crazy figure for the WAN PHY version (which I assume just has big 
> buffers?)..
> >
> > [2] Understanding, of course, that this product line is EOL.
> >
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