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states 1.5mil IPv4, but <512 routes for ipv6.. is this a typo, or is
it tuneable?<br>
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James Braunegg wrote:
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear
James<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">We
had this very debate back in 2010 we were using Cisco 7200 G2 at our
pop sites and they would just die under pressure …. Even more so when
you started to flow traffic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">We
looked at the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe and Juniper MX routers all of
which were stupidly large from a capacity point of view …. We ended up
choosing the Brocade MLXe platform and it’s been a choice which I’m very
happy with….. Lots of ports, lots of capacity and huge amounts of
performance. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">That
being said as mentioned you also have the Brocade CER RT which is a 1RU
box like a MLXe but cut down in physical size single routing engine but
still supports 4 x 10gbit interfaces and 1.5 million routes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Kindest
Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">James
Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">P:</span></b><span
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1300 769 972 | <b>M:</b> 0488 997 207 | <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span><span
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">E:</span></b><span
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</span><span
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span
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| <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> <a
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style="color:black">www.ddosprotection.com.au</span></a> <b>T:</b> @micron21<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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AusNOG [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Colin
Stubbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:44 PM<br><b>To:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:james.mcintosh@rocketmail.com">james.mcintosh@rocketmail.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [AusNOG] Scaling beyond 1Gbps transit<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class="MsoNormal">Since a bunch of people chipped in with the ASR
option, which are great and can be quite attractive with the lower
end/priced bundles..... a few words of warning.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">They're
complicated boxes so make sure you're familiar with the ASR
architecture including what components exist within each box. In
particular what components have their own discrete memory; along with
what those memory requirements will be within your particular network
using your particular configuration.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">e.g.
If you take MPLS all the way to the edge and are encapsulating a full
Internet routing table that will impact memory requirements within the
ESP. There are workarounds but on 1K consider an ESP 10G at a minimum.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br
clear="all"><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal">Colin Stubbs | Equate Technologies<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal">Level 27, Santos Place, 32 Turbot Street, Brisbane,
QLD 4000<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">T: +61 7 3181
5558 | M: +61 488 000 977<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">E:
colin.stubbs @ equatetechnologies . com . au<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class="MsoNormal">On 24 September 2013 18:00, Lindsay Hill <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lindsay.k.hill@gmail.com"
target="_blank">lindsay.k.hill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p
class="MsoNormal">There are some ASR1K bundles you can get that include
reasonably priced 10Gb ports.<br><br>If you don't get those ports via
the bundle price, then yes, they blow the cost out of the water. I've
seen some scenarios where it's almost worth buying a 1001 just to get
bundled 10G adapters, that you then use somewhere else.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><br>On 24/09/2013, at 7:24 PM, Tom Lanyon <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tom%2Bausnog@oneshoeco.com">tom+ausnog@oneshoeco.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br>> On 24/09/2013, at 4:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>>
wrote:<br>>> 600Mbps is almost the limit for a 7201 (1Gig TP
maximum theoretical).<br>>><br>>> Go an ASR1002 or Juniper
MX5 - both make great cheap bgp border routers.<br>>><br>>>
Yes... 10Gb interfaces is the way to go.... or just multiple 1Gb
upstreams? With that much traffic, you should be diverse anyhow.<br>><br>>
10Gbps interfaces are still relatively expensive[1] on the ASR1000
platform, when you consider the pricing of 7200 series[2] gear which it
is replacing. Is the situation better with the MX?<br>><br>> I
don't have any experience with them, but would an ASR9001(-S) actually
be a better choice for 10Gbps, considering the 4x built in 10Gbps SFP+
ports and cheaper-per-10Gbps modular port adapters?<br>><br>> -Tom<br>><br>><br>>
[1] Somewhere around $12k for a single port SPA-1X10GE-L-V2? and some
crazy figure for the WAN PHY version (which I assume just has big
buffers?)..<br>><br>> [2] Understanding, of course, that this
product line is EOL.<br>><br>>
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