[AusNOG] More IP's for sale (/19 and /20's)

[David Hughes]

And the Govt sells public assets all the time and surely we own those, not them  :)


On 20/03/2013, at 11:08 AM, James Spenceley <james at iroute.org> wrote:

> Personalized number plates, you don't own them but the number 1 is usually worth a lot of money.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/03/2013, at 8:54, McDonald Richards <McDonald.Richards at vocus.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> But surely to sell something implies ownership ;)
>> 
>> Macca
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/03/13 11:50 AM, "David Hughes" <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Could you even class it as an asset as you never actually own the address
>>> space?   Perhaps treating it as revenue is a better option.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> On 20/03/2013, at 10:47 AM, McDonald Richards
>>> <McDonald.Richards at vocus.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Purely out of curiosity how are folks treating the capital gains tax on
>>>> an
>>>> asset that, in theory, cost $0?
>>>> 
>>>> Macca
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 20/03/13 11:37 AM, "Joseph Goldman" <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Previous sales I have gotten ridiculous offers such as $2-5 per IP,
>>>>> which is where my second comment comes from.
>>>>> 
>>>>> People are more than welcome to bid lower then the perceived market
>>>>> rate, however there is a line of genuine offer and silly bidding. At
>>>>> the
>>>>> end of the day I take the best offer that has been presented to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20/03/13 11:11 AM, Karl Auer wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 09:38 +1000, Noel Butler wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 09:13 +1100, Joseph Goldman wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have more IP's to sell. Please contact me off-list. /19 and
>>>>>>>> /20's
>>>>>>>> only. MAY be willing to split down to a /21 if you can bring a
>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>> buyer with you to take the whole /20.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please, only serious bidders only. Please recognise current market
>>>>>>>> rates are $15+ per IP.
>>>>>>> whos market rate?
>>>>>> The "market rate", absent lots and lots of trading where prices for
>>>>>> trades can be seen and thus affect future trades, is whatever someone
>>>>>> will pay for it. I don't thing there is a market in that sense just
>>>>>> yet,
>>>>>> but one is certainly building.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's interesting for me in the above quote (and don't get me wrong,
>>>>>> Joseph, I am not having a go at you) is the tone: "I have what you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> and you'll buy on my terms". The terms suggested might have been
>>>>>> imposed
>>>>>> on Joseph by the actual seller, or they might be "tough talk" designed
>>>>>> to soften up potential buyers before they even enter negotiations. Or
>>>>>> they might be an indication that previous buyers have been so
>>>>>> desperate,
>>>>>> the Joseph now feels he can impose such terms with impunity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would love to know what Joseph ends up getting for the space :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thats 3 dollars per IP more than the few offers  I've had in recent
>>>>>>> weeks, including since my comment on similar thread late last week
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>> If those are offers, and not prices paid, then it rather suggests that
>>>>>> you are holding out for a higher price, which rather suggests that you
>>>>>> think you might get one :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All of the above is purest speculation from someone not involved in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> IPv4 address market at all, of course.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards, K.
>>>>> 
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