[AusNOG] Fwd: Joint Committee on Intelligence & Security Report out

[Narelle]

In the US that court is a secret court so its judgements are not open to
scrutiny. They also have a stronger culture of suspicion against
government, not to mention various constitutional protections.

My theory is we have certain 'hangovers' from our days as a penal colony.

Sigh.

N
On Jun 24, 2013 2:41 PM, "Paul Wallace" <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au> wrote:

> My understand of the data collection occasioned under PRISM is that it was
> done under a standing Court Order.****
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> It seems that, despite the existence of a Court Order, American citizens
> are horrified by this.****
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> Why then are Australians not more deeply concerned about the Federal
> Australian Government’s statements supporting various the ASICs desire to
> act in the ongoing absence of a Court Order?****
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Matt
> Perkins
> *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 11:16 AM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: Joint Committee on Intelligence & Security
> Report out****
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> Cant they just ask the US government for a copy from Prism will save us a
> heap of cash. :)
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> Matt.
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>  On 24/06/13 11:11 AM, Narelle wrote:****
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Narelle Clark, President ISOC-AU* <president at isoc-au.org.au>
> Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM
> Subject: Joint Committee on Intelligence & Security Report out
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> See:
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> http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House_of_Representatives_Committees?url=pjcis/nsl2012/report.htm
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> GEN: Parliamentary committee dodges data retention decision ****
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> JAMES HUTCHINSON****
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> A long-awaited decision on whether the federal government should implement
> a mandatory data retention regime has been sidelined by a parliamentary
> committee tasked to look at the contentious matter.****
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> The joint intelligence and security committee, which was tasked by former
> Attorney-general Nicola Roxon in May last year to consider security reform,
> said that whether a regime should be put in place was “ultimately a
> decision for government”.****
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> The regime was one of 44 proposals put forward by the Attorney-General’s
> Department and security agencies last year as the committee looked at
> whether to reform national security legislation.****
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> If put in place, it would force telecommunications companies like Telstra
> to hold metadata like phone call records and IP addresses on Australians
> for up to two years.****
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> Federal, state and local government agencies accessed metadata more than
> 300,000 times during the last financial year, but agencies have argued that
> this type of information is increasingly unavailable.****
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> The proposal attracted the ire of civil liberties groups and the Greens,
> which argued that the warrantless system infringed on the privacy of
> Australian citizens.****
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> Though the committee did not make a decision on the matter, it urged the
> government to publish draft legislation on the proposal that would ensure
> that security agencies are unable to access the actual content of
> communications without a warrant.****
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> It also said any legislation should ban agency access to internet browsing
> data like website addresses, and that the government should reimburse
> telecommunications companies for the cost of establishing such a system; a
> key sticking point for companies like iiNet.****
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> More to come****
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> from:****
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> http://www.afr.com/p/technology/parliamentary_committee_dodges_data_FuIjuqFrH5NvYp7Rv77xpK
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