[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
Damien Gardner Jnr
rendrag at rendrag.net
Tue Jul 23 08:25:16 EST 2013
Optus used to ship something similar - the Huawei E960 - was a 3g
wireless router with four ethernet ports, and one POTS port. Was
insanely expensive to make calls on, as they were charged at full mobile
rates, and you couldn't get a 'mobile' plan for it, but was great in an
emergency.
When not in use out and about, I'd leave it at home, plugged into an
SPA3102, which dropped it into the home PABX, so that I could call it
from my optus mobile to make free 15-minute calls home to talk to the Mrs..
-_DG
On 19/07/2013 2:46 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
> These are starting to become more common here in the US -
> http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html
> <http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html#fbid=9QKmNcxYwrl>
>
>
> Connects to a standard POTS handset (and power), and is charged like a
> landline - but the calls go over the mobile network.
>
> Cost is roughly the same as a true landline.
>
> No learning curve as it's exactly the same handset as for a landline.
> Includes a battery so it can continue to work (for a while at least)
> during a blackout.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au
> <mailto:ABeeson at csu.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> Completely agree, using a mobile is a better option in most cases,
> but it's that learning curve, then they have to keep it charged,
> pay for a mobile plan, have service etc.
>
> My in-laws are a prime example (though they don't need the phone
> for medical reasons or anything). They live 20 minutes out of town
> here, due to geographic layout most of the small town / village /
> community they live in gets poor coverage at best, non-existent
> inside the house (Telstra and Optus btw, don't even mention
> Vodafone out here). They both have mobiles but they hate to use
> them and only turn them on in an emergency (basically, broken down
> on the way to work is about it) and you just don't even try to
> contact them on it cause it's a waste of time.
>
> Also things like that tend to be hard to put numbers against (time
> or cost) so avoiding it makes sense from a planning perspective.
>
> You can get ADSL modem / router / ATA boxes now and it's not hard
> to imagine a GPON Modem / router / ATA in the future but that
> doesn't exist now that I'm aware of, it'd still need a battery
> backup then too.
>
> Thanks,
> Ayden Beeson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Jonathan Thorpe
> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 2:25 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day
> yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
>
> Would it really be such a bad idea to encourage these people to
> use a mobile? Politically, of course it would be, but in reality,
> would it?
>
> If someone really just wants a phone, I'm pretty sure vendors will
> be quick to build plug-n-play devices that provide an analogue
> voice port at one end and a fibre port at the other. Yes, this is
> effectively a router + ATA such as those already available, but
> does provide a certain level of familiarity that these people are
> looking for.
>
> Similar to an ISDN to Analogue adapter perhaps?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Heinz N
> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 2:04 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day
> yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
>
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Beeson, Ayden wrote:
> >
> > There is also that major point made before, that some people simply
> > require a PSTN service that is reliable and guaranteed.
>
> +1
>
> With NBN, Granny Myrtle McCready will now need a NTU that needs a
> power brick with a battery. She will also need an ATA (which ALSO
> needs power).
> She can't understand why she needs to have all those extra new
> fangled power cables going to those funny boxes with lights on
> them. Perhaps ditching NBN and getting a mobile would be a MUCH
> easier solution for her?
>
> In order to save power because of price gouging by electricty
> suppliers and incompetent governments, she turns her electricity
> off "of the night"
> and wonders why her grand daugther isn't phoning her any more (as
> well as the funny beeping from one of the boxes). Typical dumb
> politicians trying to ram stuff through with no understanding at
> all on the consequences to those least able to cope!
>
> Everyone on this list has no probs configuring any sort of CPE or
> a more substantial router as might be needed to handle multiple
> ports, as well as UPSs etc etc. However, unfortunately _most_
> people are still technically illiterate and will remain so.
>
> H.
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