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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Optus used to ship something similar -
the Huawei E960 - was a 3g wireless router with four ethernet
ports, and one POTS port. Was insanely expensive to make calls
on, as they were charged at full mobile rates, and you couldn't
get a 'mobile' plan for it, but was great in an emergency. <br>
<br>
When not in use out and about, I'd leave it at home, plugged into
an SPA3102, which dropped it into the home PABX, so that I could
call it from my optus mobile to make free 15-minute calls home to
talk to the Mrs..<br>
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-_DG<br>
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On 19/07/2013 2:46 PM, Scott Howard wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">These are starting to become more common here in
the US - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html#fbid=9QKmNcxYwrl">http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html</a>
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<div>Connects to a standard POTS handset (and power), and is
charged like a landline - but the calls go over the mobile
network.</div>
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<div>Cost is roughly the same as a true landline.</div>
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<div>No learning curve as it's exactly the same handset as for a
landline. Includes a battery so it can continue to work (for a
while at least) during a blackout.</div>
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<div> Scott</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM,
Beeson, Ayden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ABeeson@csu.edu.au" target="_blank">ABeeson@csu.edu.au</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Completely
agree, using a mobile is a better option in most cases, but
it's that learning curve, then they have to keep it charged,
pay for a mobile plan, have service etc.<br>
<br>
My in-laws are a prime example (though they don't need the
phone for medical reasons or anything). They live 20 minutes
out of town here, due to geographic layout most of the small
town / village / community they live in gets poor coverage
at best, non-existent inside the house (Telstra and Optus
btw, don't even mention Vodafone out here). They both have
mobiles but they hate to use them and only turn them on in
an emergency (basically, broken down on the way to work is
about it) and you just don't even try to contact them on it
cause it's a waste of time.<br>
<br>
Also things like that tend to be hard to put numbers against
(time or cost) so avoiding it makes sense from a planning
perspective.<br>
<br>
You can get ADSL modem / router / ATA boxes now and it's not
hard to imagine a GPON Modem / router / ATA in the future
but that doesn't exist now that I'm aware of, it'd still
need a battery backup then too.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ayden Beeson<br>
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On Behalf Of Jonathan Thorpe<br>
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 2:25 PM<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from
Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices<br>
<br>
Would it really be such a bad idea to encourage these people
to use a mobile? Politically, of course it would be, but in
reality, would it?<br>
<br>
If someone really just wants a phone, I'm pretty sure
vendors will be quick to build plug-n-play devices that
provide an analogue voice port at one end and a fibre port
at the other. Yes, this is effectively a router + ATA such
as those already available, but does provide a certain level
of familiarity that these people are looking for.<br>
<br>
Similar to an ISDN to Analogue adapter perhaps?<br>
<br>
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From: AusNOG [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Heinz N<br>
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 2:04 PM<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from
Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices<br>
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Beeson, Ayden wrote:<br>
><br>
> There is also that major point made before, that some
people simply<br>
> require a PSTN service that is reliable and guaranteed.<br>
<br>
+1<br>
<br>
With NBN, Granny Myrtle McCready will now need a NTU that
needs a power brick with a battery. She will also need an
ATA (which ALSO needs power).<br>
She can't understand why she needs to have all those extra
new fangled power cables going to those funny boxes with
lights on them. Perhaps ditching NBN and getting a mobile
would be a MUCH easier solution for her?<br>
<br>
In order to save power because of price gouging by
electricty suppliers and incompetent governments, she turns
her electricity off "of the night"<br>
and wonders why her grand daugther isn't phoning her any
more (as well as the funny beeping from one of the boxes).
Typical dumb politicians trying to ram stuff through with no
understanding at all on the consequences to those least able
to cope!<br>
<br>
Everyone on this list has no probs configuring any sort of
CPE or a more substantial router as might be needed to
handle multiple ports, as well as UPSs etc etc. However,
unfortunately _most_ people are still technically illiterate
and will remain so.<br>
<br>
H.<br>
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