[AusNOG] Fwd: LulzSec Leader Arrested in Sydney - One of our

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Sat Apr 27 21:38:27 EST 2013


If you're in the top 10 telco customer or whatever, then as you say you
won't need/use a list. So who is left? Hundreds of people without ASs but
still fairly decent networks who would both benefit from the list and
assist others? Tens of people with ASs, few of whom will bother with
another list when they know all pertinent discussion will take place on
AusNOG anyway.. If its as small as you think then for sure no one will
bother leaking the new list, or if it grows to be as useful as AusNOG
(which some people don't think is the case) and/(or) replaces AusNOG as a
source of general troubleshooting information, you can be sure it will leak.

Still haven't seen anyone actually suggest what would be posted to a closed
list (which will surely be leaked) vs an open one. Or if you're coming back
to the matter of 'whirlpool spam', well look at all the 'discussion' on
this issue. If you look at the archive you'll see more spam posts
surrounding this new list than at least 4 months of last year.. the irony
eh.

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Aaron Swayn <aaron at swayn.com> wrote:
>
> Sure, even a closed list can leak. But you know what. This is still a
> really small community, everyone knows each other and anyone caught will be
> booted (I'd hope so anyway).



> If your in the telco's top 10 customer list  by revenue or a strategic
> business relationship, then you'll probably have the necessary direct
> contacts and escalation paths anyway.
>
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