<div dir="ltr">If you're in the top 10 telco customer or whatever, then as you say you won't need/use a list. So who is left? Hundreds of people without ASs but still fairly decent networks who would both benefit from the list and assist others? Tens of people with ASs, few of whom will bother with another list when they know all pertinent discussion will take place on AusNOG anyway.. If its as small as you think then for sure no one will bother leaking the new list, or if it grows to be as useful as AusNOG (which some people don't think is the case) and/(or) replaces AusNOG as a source of general troubleshooting information, you can be sure it will leak.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Still haven't seen anyone actually suggest what would be posted to a closed list (which will surely be leaked) vs an open one. Or if you're coming back to the matter of 'whirlpool spam', well look at all the 'discussion' on this issue. If you look at the archive you'll see more spam posts surrounding this new list than at least 4 months of last year.. the irony eh.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Aaron Swayn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aaron@swayn.com" target="_blank">aaron@swayn.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sure, even a closed list can leak. But you know what. This is still a really small community, everyone knows each other and anyone caught will be booted (I'd hope so anyway). </blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If your in the telco's top 10 customer list by revenue or a strategic business relationship, then you'll probably have the necessary direct contacts and escalation paths anyway.<br></blockquote></div></div>