[AusNOG] Noglist.com

[James Hodgkinson]

I'd gladly accept lurker status - I'm not famous or well connected enough
to be "legit" but working for a large government department with many
connections, we've learnt some important things from the *technical*
discussion in the past.

James


On 26 April 2013 17:39, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:

> A closed mailing list is almost an oxymoron. The irony of this topic being
> it is in itself "4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being
> generated"...
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Don Gould <don at bowenvale.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>  Will your new list be publicly visible with only authorised posters or
>> simply completely closed?
>>
>> D
>>
>> On 26/04/2013 12:31 p.m., Bevan Slattery wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>  As part of the previous discussion, I prepared the new list called
>> Noglist.com.  I was asked by Ausnog to hold off until they had a chance to
>> propose a solution to the existing issues.  Ausnog will be more proactively
>> moderating the Ausnog list.  A great step forward and good news.
>>
>>  However, feedback from many people off-list is that regardless of
>> increased moderation, they feel they are no longer prepared to contribute
>> to many of the discussions due to the open nature of the list.  Concerns
>> include:
>>
>>  1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation that
>> subscribes including journalists and non-network people
>> 2.  Any communication is archived publicly and widely available to the
>> public
>> 3.  While initial discussions are generally on-topic, they typically
>> detoriate over a short period of time
>> 4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being generated
>>
>>  It has been agreed that a new closed list will be created.
>>  Requirements are listed on the site and include:
>>
>>
>>    1.  network operator/administrator or engineer on a public network
>>    with an ASN.
>>    2. technical expert for network hardware or software systems
>>    3. Owner/operator of underlying critical network infrastructure (data
>>    centres, underground infrastructure eg. pit/pipe, submarine or
>>    inter-capital, energy and utility providers)
>>    4. Persons who are widely recognised as having considerable and
>>    valuable input to the community
>>
>>  It is the intention that the list will build over a reasonably short
>> period of time to include all major network and infrastructure
>> administrators and owners.
>>
>>  Now to be very clear – it is not intended to replace Ausnog and will
>> NOT replace Ausnog.  Ausnog is a very valuable resource to the community.
>>  However what has become apparent is that there is a substantial amount of
>> information that is not discussed or disclosed to the Ausnog list for fear
>> of possible sensitive information being republished.
>>
>>  Currently running a test environment here: https://noglist.com/test.php
>>
>>
>>  This is for information only and not intended for discussion.
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>>  [b]
>>
>>
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