[AusNOG] Noglist.com

[Joshua D'Alton]

A closed mailing list is almost an oxymoron. The irony of this topic being
it is in itself "4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being
generated"...


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Don Gould <don at bowenvale.co.nz> wrote:

>  Will your new list be publicly visible with only authorised posters or
> simply completely closed?
>
> D
>
> On 26/04/2013 12:31 p.m., Bevan Slattery wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>  As part of the previous discussion, I prepared the new list called
> Noglist.com.  I was asked by Ausnog to hold off until they had a chance to
> propose a solution to the existing issues.  Ausnog will be more proactively
> moderating the Ausnog list.  A great step forward and good news.
>
>  However, feedback from many people off-list is that regardless of
> increased moderation, they feel they are no longer prepared to contribute
> to many of the discussions due to the open nature of the list.  Concerns
> include:
>
>  1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation that
> subscribes including journalists and non-network people
> 2.  Any communication is archived publicly and widely available to the
> public
> 3.  While initial discussions are generally on-topic, they typically
> detoriate over a short period of time
> 4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being generated
>
>  It has been agreed that a new closed list will be created.  Requirements
> are listed on the site and include:
>
>
>    1.  network operator/administrator or engineer on a public network
>    with an ASN.
>    2. technical expert for network hardware or software systems
>    3. Owner/operator of underlying critical network infrastructure (data
>    centres, underground infrastructure eg. pit/pipe, submarine or
>    inter-capital, energy and utility providers)
>    4. Persons who are widely recognised as having considerable and
>    valuable input to the community
>
>  It is the intention that the list will build over a reasonably short
> period of time to include all major network and infrastructure
> administrators and owners.
>
>  Now to be very clear – it is not intended to replace Ausnog and will NOT
> replace Ausnog.  Ausnog is a very valuable resource to the community.
>  However what has become apparent is that there is a substantial amount of
> information that is not discussed or disclosed to the Ausnog list for fear
> of possible sensitive information being republished.
>
>  Currently running a test environment here: https://noglist.com/test.php
>
>  This is for information only and not intended for discussion.
>
>  Cheers
>
>  [b]
>
>
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