[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

[Mark Ashley]

+Optus
+Telstra
+Pipe

I don't expect any ISP is going to bother answering questions here,
they want to stay out of gaol. You're better off calling the high tech
crime unit and asking the nice police person to discuss an ongoing
investigation with you.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Heinz N <ausnog at equisoft.com.au> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Tim March wrote:
>
>>
>> So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;
>>
>>     1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP addresses? Are
>> you voluntarily complying with some sort of government filtering
>> initiative
>> or doing so at the request of some other law enforcement agency - eg, AFP,
>> as some people have suggested ?
>>
>>     2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed - Are
>> you
>> provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency from time to
>> time,
>> or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to the list as requested ?
>>
>>     3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at both the
>> presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?
>>
>>     4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either voluntarily
>> or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?
>>
>>     5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not
>> already
>> published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide a copy of the
>> current list for review ?
>>
>> Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses at
>> most
>> of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from either AAPT or
>> another carrier to each of the questions...
>>
>>
>>
>> T.
>>
>> On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
>>       Wouldn't they need to tell all carriage service providers. We
>>       can still get to it via one of our other links. If we dont know
>>       we have to block it how would we do so.  Also you can add pipe
>>       to the list looks like they are blocking it as well.
>>
>>       Matt.
>>
>>
>>       On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
>>
>>       That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely scenario
>>       is the AFP can issue direction that an ISP "take
>>       reasonable steps to uphold the law" and they're issued
>>       that here with an IP as the target.
>>
>>       On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy" <the.damo at gmail.com>
>>       wrote:
>>             Given all the people saying internode / iinet
>>             works fine, and their market size, I would
>>             have to think we are looking at
>>             a voluntary implementation of a government
>>             filter. Which I think is pretty poor form for
>>             Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing their
>>             (ineffective) filter onto their downstream
>>             customers without any sort of acknowledgement.
>>             This is probably one of thoes things that
>>             needs to blow up on whirlpool to get a real
>>             response out of whoever as to what is
>>             happening.
>> Of course, if this is a new addition to
>> the rumored mandatory blacklist that all ISP's have to
>> adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated their
>> tables.
>>
>> --Damian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin Donald-Wilson
>> <benny at thesii.org> wrote:
>>       Yep, works from a friend's Internode
>>       connection in Sydney.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N
>> <ausnog at equisoft.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>       On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin
>>       Donald-Wilson wrote:
>>
>>             I just got someone to check
>>             the website though his
>>             University
>>             of Queensland VPN. He says
>>             he can access it though that
>>             but not directly
>>             though his normal Bigpond
>>             internet connection.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy &
>> TOR network. If these idiot politicians think
>> they can stop anyone getting to anywhere, they
>> are deluded. A 12 year old could get past this
>> "block". This is what comes of having clueless
>> politicians trying to "regulate" something
>> that they have never used. They will only be
>> happy when they block /0
>>
>>
>> Yep, no doubt a 12 year old could get past the
>> block, I'm only a few years older then that.
>>
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