[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

[Heinz N]

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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Tim March wrote:

> 
> So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;
> 
>     1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP addresses? Are
> you voluntarily complying with some sort of government filtering initiative
> or doing so at the request of some other law enforcement agency - eg, AFP,
> as some people have suggested ?
> 
>     2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed - Are you
> provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency from time to time,
> or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to the list as requested ?
> 
>     3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at both the
> presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?
>    
>     4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either voluntarily
> or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?
> 
>     5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not already
> published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide a copy of the
> current list for review ?
> 
> Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses at most
> of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from either AAPT or
> another carrier to each of the questions...
> 
> 
> 
> T.
> 
> On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
>       Wouldn't they need to tell all carriage service providers. We
>       can still get to it via one of our other links. If we dont know
>       we have to block it how would we do so.  Also you can add pipe
>       to the list looks like they are blocking it as well.
>
>       Matt.
> 
>
>       On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
>
>       That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely scenario
>       is the AFP can issue direction that an ISP "take
>       reasonable steps to uphold the law" and they're issued
>       that here with an IP as the target.
>
>       On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy" <the.damo at gmail.com>
>       wrote:
>             Given all the people saying internode / iinet
>             works fine, and their market size, I would
>             have to think we are looking at
>             a voluntary implementation of a government
>             filter. Which I think is pretty poor form for
>             Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing their
>             (ineffective) filter onto their downstream
>             customers without any sort of acknowledgement.
>             This is probably one of thoes things that
>             needs to blow up on whirlpool to get a real
>             response out of whoever as to what is
>             happening.
> Of course, if this is a new addition to
> the rumored mandatory blacklist that all ISP's have to
> adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated their
> tables. 
> 
> --Damian
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin Donald-Wilson
> <benny at thesii.org> wrote:
>       Yep, works from a friend's Internode
>       connection in Sydney.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N
> <ausnog at equisoft.com.au> wrote:
>
>       On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin
>       Donald-Wilson wrote:
>
>             I just got someone to check
>             the website though his
>             University
>             of Queensland VPN. He says
>             he can access it though that
>             but not directly
>             though his normal Bigpond
>             internet connection.
> 
> 
> Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy &
> TOR network. If these idiot politicians think
> they can stop anyone getting to anywhere, they
> are deluded. A 12 year old could get past this
> "block". This is what comes of having clueless
> politicians trying to "regulate" something
> that they have never used. They will only be
> happy when they block /0
> 
> 
> Yep, no doubt a 12 year old could get past the
> block, I'm only a few years older then that.
> 
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