[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Tim March <march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;
>
>     1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP addresses? Are
> you voluntarily complying with some sort of government filtering initiative
> or doing so at the request of some other law enforcement agency - eg, AFP,
> as some people have suggested ?
>
>     2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed - Are
> you provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency from time to
> time, or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to the list as requested
> ?
>
>     3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at both the
> presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?
>
>     4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either voluntarily
> or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?
>
>     5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not
> already published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide a copy
> of the current list for review ?
>
> Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses at
> most of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from either AAPT
> or another carrier to each of the questions...
>
>
>
> T.
>
> On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
>
> Wouldn't they need to tell all carriage service providers. We can still
> get to it via one of our other links. If we dont know we have to block it
> how would we do so.  Also you can add pipe to the list looks like they are
> blocking it as well.
>
> Matt.
>
>
> On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
>
> That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely scenario is the AFP can
> issue direction that an ISP "take reasonable steps to uphold the law" and
> they're issued that here with an IP as the target.
> On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy" <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Given all the people saying internode / iinet works fine, and their
>> market size, I would have to think we are looking at
>> a voluntary implementation of a government filter. Which I think is pretty
>> poor form for Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing their (ineffective)
>> filter onto their downstream customers without any sort of acknowledgement.
>> This is probably one of thoes things that needs to blow up on whirlpool to
>> get a real response out of whoever as to what is happening.
>>
>>  Of course, if this is a new addition to the rumored mandatory blacklist
>> that all ISP's have to adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated
>> their tables.
>>
>>  --Damian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin Donald-Wilson <benny at thesii.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  Yep, works from a friend's Internode connection in Sydney.
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N <ausnog at equisoft.com.au>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin Donald-Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I just got someone to check the website though his University
>>>>> of Queensland VPN. He says he can access it though that but not
>>>>> directly
>>>>> though his normal Bigpond internet connection.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy & TOR network. If these
>>>> idiot politicians think they can stop anyone getting to anywhere, they are
>>>> deluded. A 12 year old could get past this "block". This is what comes of
>>>> having clueless politicians trying to "regulate" something that they have
>>>> never used. They will only be happy when they block /0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>   Yep, no doubt a 12 year old could get past the block, I'm only a few
>>> years older then that.
>>>
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