[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

Thu Apr 11 18:23:51 EST 2013

For whats its worth I can get to it over TPG dsl at home, but from the
office, using telstra transit it appears blocked somewhere with telstra.

Ben

On 11/04/2013 18:02, "Skeeve Stevens"
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>Yes.  AAPT, man up and tell us what is going on.
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>If you can't, tell us who can, and we will pursue them.
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>On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Tim March
><march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:
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>So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;
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>    1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP addresses? Are
>you voluntarily complying with some sort of government filtering
>initiative or doing so at the request of some other law enforcement
>agency - eg, AFP, as some people have suggested ?
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>    2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed - Are
>you provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency from time to
>time, or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to the list as
>requested ?
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>    3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at both the
>presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?
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>    4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either
>voluntarily or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?
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>    5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not
>already published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide a
>copy of the current list for review ?
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>Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses at
>most of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from either
>AAPT or another carrier to each of the questions...
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>On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
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>Wouldn't they need to tell all carriage service providers. We can still
>get to it via one of our other links. If we dont know we have to block it
>how would we do so.  Also you can add pipe to the list looks like they
>are blocking it as well.
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>Matt.
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>On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
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>That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely scenario is the AFP can
>issue direction that an ISP "take reasonable steps to uphold the law" and
>they're issued that here with an IP as the target.
>On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy" <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Given all the people saying internode / iinet works fine, and their
>market size, I would have to think we are looking at a voluntary
>implementation of a government filter. Which I think is pretty poor form
>for Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing
> their (ineffective) filter onto their downstream customers without any
>sort of acknowledgement. This is probably one of thoes things that needs
>to blow up on whirlpool to get a real response out of whoever as to what
>is happening.
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>Of course, if this is a new addition to the rumored mandatory blacklist
>that all ISP's have to adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated
>their tables. 
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>--Damian
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>On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin Donald-Wilson
><benny at thesii.org> wrote:
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>Yep, works from a friend's Internode connection in Sydney.
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>On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N <ausnog at equisoft.com.au> wrote:
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>On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin Donald-Wilson wrote:
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>I just got someone to check the website though his University
>of Queensland VPN. He says he can access it though that but not directly
>though his normal Bigpond internet connection.
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>Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy & TOR network. If these idiot
>politicians think they can stop anyone getting to anywhere, they are
>deluded. A 12 year old could get past this "block". This is what comes of
>having clueless politicians trying to "regulate"
> something that they have never used. They will only be happy when they
>block /0
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>Yep, no doubt a 12 year old could get past the block, I'm only a few
>years older then that.
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