[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Mark Prior]

AS703 = Verizon Asia Pacific

Mark.

On 12/11/12 4:47 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
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>> From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au>
>> To: Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>
>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Sent: Monday, 12 November 2012 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?
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>> On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>
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>>>   There's been on list discussion stating that if the other 3 members of
>>>   the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published policy, they
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>>>   get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an opinion on that
>>>   either way?
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>> I'd suggest that untrue.  All would meet AS703s requirements.
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> I wouldn't have thought Telstra, Optus or AAPT can meet the following -
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> Geographic Scope. The Requester shall operate facilities capable of terminating IP customer leased line connections onto a device in at least 50% of the geographic region in which the Verizon Business Internet Network with which it desires to interconnect operates such facilities. This currently equates to 25 states in the United States, 9 countries in Europe, or 3 countries in the Asia-Pacific region. The Requester also must have a geographically-dispersed network. In the United States, at a minimum, the Requester must have a backbone node in each of the following eight geographic regions: Northeast; Mid-Atlantic; Southeast; North Central; South Central; Northwest; Mid-Pacific; and Southwest.
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> Obviously Verizon can choose to break their own rules if it benefits them.
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>> MMC
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>>>   On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:
>>>>   On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
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>>>>>   Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG occurred, their traffic
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>>>>>   would not put them in a position to discuss settlement-free or SKA
>>>>>   peering with any of the GoF without government intervention - that
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>>>>>   the crux of the issue here.
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>>>>   I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the other three. They
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>>>>   written peering policy and if you satisfy the policy via a test
>>>>   peering then you get to keep it.
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>>>>   AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-) but it's a moving
>>>>   target, at least it was when I last tried to use it to get peering.
>>>>   Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible and Optus can't
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>>>>   peering.
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>>>>   Mark.
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