[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Mark Smith]

----- Original Message -----
> From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au>
> To: Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Sent: Monday, 12 November 2012 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?
> 
> 
> On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
>>  There's been on list discussion stating that if the other 3 members of
>>  the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published policy, they 
> wouldn't
>>  get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an opinion on that
>>  either way?
>> 
> 
> I'd suggest that untrue.  All would meet AS703s requirements.  
> 

I wouldn't have thought Telstra, Optus or AAPT can meet the following -

Geographic Scope. The Requester shall operate facilities capable of terminating IP customer leased line connections onto a device in at least 50% of the geographic region in which the Verizon Business Internet Network with which it desires to interconnect operates such facilities. This currently equates to 25 states in the United States, 9 countries in Europe, or 3 countries in the Asia-Pacific region. The Requester also must have a geographically-dispersed network. In the United States, at a minimum, the Requester must have a backbone node in each of the following eight geographic regions: Northeast; Mid-Atlantic; Southeast; North Central; South Central; Northwest; Mid-Pacific; and Southwest.


Obviously Verizon can choose to break their own rules if it benefits them.



> MMC
> 
>> 
>>  On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:
>>>  On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG occurred, their traffic 
> volume
>>>>  would not put them in a position to discuss settlement-free or SKA
>>>>  peering with any of the GoF without government intervention - that 
> is
>>>>  the crux of the issue here.
>>> 
>>>  I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the other three. They 
> have a
>>>  written peering policy and if you satisfy the policy via a test
>>>  peering then you get to keep it.
>>> 
>>>  AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-) but it's a moving
>>>  target, at least it was when I last tried to use it to get peering.
>>>  Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible and Optus can't 
> spell
>>>  peering.
>>> 
>>>  Mark.
>>> 
>> 
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