[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Joshua D'Alton]

Probably what MMC was hinting at ;)



On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Chris Ricks
<chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>wrote:

>  From some traces I ran a while ago, it looked like Internode had a BGP
> adjacency with AS703 at one point....
>
>
> On 12/11/12 16:17, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>
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>  On 11/11/2012, at 9:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:
>
> AARNet is a special case though, just as the various other research
> networks around the world get peering. Level3 for example doesn't accept
> any new peering at all, yet there have been 4 since 2000, all research
> networks.
>
>
>  AARNet is not the only AU network outside the GoF with AS703 peering.
>
>  MMC
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Mark Prior <mrp at mrp.net> wrote:
>
>> AARNet met Verizon's requirements and got peering with them. I believed
>> we also met AAPT's until AAPT changed their policy.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/12 3:18 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>
>>> With that said (AS703s requirements being met by AAPT, Optus and
>>> Telstra), is it likely that any other Australian carrier would be likely
>>> to meet them as well?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/11/12 15:32, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  There's been on list discussion stating that if the other 3 members of
>>>>> the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published policy, they wouldn't
>>>>> get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an opinion on that
>>>>> either way?
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'd suggest that untrue.  All would meet AS703s requirements.
>>>>
>>>> MMC
>>>>
>>>>  On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG occurred, their traffic volume
>>>>>>> would not put them in a position to discuss settlement-free or SKA
>>>>>>> peering with any of the GoF without government intervention - that is
>>>>>>> the crux of the issue here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the other three. They have a
>>>>>> written peering policy and if you satisfy the policy via a test
>>>>>> peering then you get to keep it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-) but it's a moving
>>>>>> target, at least it was when I last tried to use it to get peering.
>>>>>> Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible and Optus can't spell
>>>>>> peering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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