[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missing from PIPE-IX?

[Anthony Cacciola]

Thanks James for setting the record straight and update us.

Cheers

Anthony

Cheers

Anthony



On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM, James Spenceley <james at vocus.com.au> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We are probably at the point that some level of clarification would help.
>
> Due to contractual reasons we were required to vacate all of our racks in
> the PIPE facilities and also turn off a number of misc services (such as
> some remaining fibre tails and peering). For clarity TPG/PIPE was entirely
> entitled to take the course of action they did.
>
> This involved Vocus moving a not-so-insignificant number of customers'
> services and kit in a very short window of time. That move was completed
> successfully yesterday and the last live pieces of equipment in PIPE DCs
> were turned down last night (including all peering).  Not all of our
> peering services were terminated, but given that we expected they would be,
> we have planned for it and shut them down ahead of time.
>
> Vocus is still openly peering at the WAIA exchange points (WAIX, VIC-IX,
> QLD-IX) and also at Equinix in Sydney (where we have upgraded our port to
> handle the increased bandwidth).  Our full routes are still available at
> those points and a huge number of locations privately, if the volume
> justifies the port/cross connect/admin costs.
>
> I'd like to thank all of our affected customers (a lot whom are on this
> list) for their patience and assistance. I know this has caused you
> additional cost and distraction, so the positive attitude and support
> you've (literally) all shown is greatly appreciated.  Also I'd like to
> thank our IP and Fibre teams who managed the migrations - they are simply
> the best and most dedicated guys I know and worked incredibly hard to
> minimise any customer inconvenience.
>
> A number of people have suggested that this might escalate. It won't.
> There is no "war". TPG/PIPE still have racks in Vocus data centres and we
> won't be changing that. I've expressed this to PIPE and those who have
> voiced concerns and now it is on public record.
>
> Both PIPE and Vocus will continue working in a professional manor for the
> delivery of Fibre/Telco services to each other's facilities. Pipe exercised
> their contractual rights, it caused us a lot of difficultly but that's life
> its now in the past. Since then there have been no instances of anything
> deliberately negative.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> James
>
> (speaking privately to ausnog, not to any wider audience)
>
> @Nathan Brookfield, on your delay getting cross connects, I don't believe
> that is down to a conspiracy or any issues between PIPE and Vocus. Please
> talk to your co-lo provider about getting the cross connect escalated (I'm
> sure after your post it now has some attention). If there is anything we
> can do to help, drop me a line.
>
>
> On 08/11/2012, at 12:55 PM, Noel Butler wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 12:32 +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> >>
> >> It is like the days when AAPT through Pipe out of their DC's.... now
> Pipe, under the new ownership seems to be doing the same thing.  The
> company that rose to success largely because of who ran it and how they
> operated, no longer seems to consider what people think of them, which is
> sad, because it is (or was) a good network asset.
> >>
> >
> > So you are claiming now something the rest of us don't know, that is
> that PIPE instigated this, or are you (as I suspect) just wildly waving
> your arms pointing in a direction of your least liked characters?
> > You're an intelligent man Skeeve, If you did know the truth, I doubt you
> would be foolish enough to even imply it in public, so lets stop with the
> blame game because unless one of the entities directly involved press
> release it, no-one will really know, and as it's nobody else's business I
> wouldn't hold your breath waiting for one <face-wink.png>  and since I'm
> only a bush lawyer (like almost everyone else around here), I'd say one
> party wont without the agreement of the other fearing legal ramifications.
> >
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