[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?

Matthew Moyle-Croft mmc at mmc.com.au
Mon Jun 25 17:34:54 EST 2012


Which APN is that using?

MMC

On 25/06/2012, at 4:56 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:

> Interesting, I saw the exact same results.
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> Just to throw a spanner in the works (if it’s not already), I only noticed the mentioned behaviour when using my personal Telstra mobile.
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> My business/work supplied Telstra mobile was not followed up by a request from any additional IP’s
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> Needs more foil….
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> -          Seamus
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Goldman
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 4:48 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?
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>  Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able to speak to a chap in `Level 2 Technical Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is a part of Telstra's core system, where they track the websites you have visited for bill reporting purposes. 
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>  In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I have a reference for this call), that he could request billing to show a list of websites I have visited and how long I was on those websites.
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>  He informed me that these services hitting the same website is tied in with that system.
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>  It doesn't make sense why they would hit the site again as a GET, as they could pull this from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of scraping the website to gain extra insight about what i'm browsing, would suggest they would keep the path/query string instead of just hitting the root of the site, to actually see what content I am browsing.
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>  I was also informed that I can not opt-out of this occurring, so I plan to contact ACCC or TIO in the morning to see what they can tell me about the practise (who would you think is better?).
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> Interesting indeed.
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> On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote:
> Eric, you should check this out.
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> http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm
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> James
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Eric Pinkerton
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 3:30 PM
> To: Matt Perkins; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?
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> >Could it be that telstra are passing your browsing history in real time to a marketing company who are then looking at the site to gather some sort of marking info on the site you were just looking at.
> Would explain why they are not looking at there own cache.
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> Last night I had a dream.  I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord.  Across the sky flashed scenes from my life.  For each scene, I noticed three sets of footprints in the sand: one belonged to me, one to the Lord, and one to a marketing company in the US who was paying Telstra for my exact movements in real time.
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