[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?

Matthew Maxwell matt at xembler.org
Mon Jun 25 17:29:49 EST 2012


Joke is on the marketing company thanks to CGN unless translation logs are
also being provided!

Hrmm  Where's my hat...

Sent from my iPhone.

On 25/06/2012, at 17:26, Seamus Ryan <s.ryan at uber.com.au> wrote:

  Interesting, I saw the exact same results.



Just to throw a spanner in the works (if it’s not already), I only noticed
the mentioned behaviour when using my personal Telstra mobile.



My business/work supplied Telstra mobile was not followed up by a request
from any additional IP’s



Needs more foil….



-          Seamus







*From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Goldman
*Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 4:48 PM
*To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?



 Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able to speak to a chap in
`Level 2 Technical Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is a part of
Telstra's core system, where they track the websites you have visited for
bill reporting purposes.

 In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I have a reference for this
call), that he could request billing to show a list of websites I have
visited and how long I was on those websites.

 He informed me that these services hitting the same website is tied in
with that system.

 It doesn't make sense why they would hit the site again as a GET, as they
could pull this from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of scraping the
website to gain extra insight about what i'm browsing, would suggest they
would keep the path/query string instead of just hitting the root of the
site, to actually see what content I am browsing.

 I was also informed that I can not opt-out of this occurring, so I plan to
contact ACCC or TIO in the morning to see what they can tell me about the
practise (who would you think is better?).

Interesting indeed.

On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote:

Eric, you should check this out.



http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm



James



*From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [
mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On
Behalf Of *Eric Pinkerton
*Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 3:30 PM
*To:* Matt Perkins; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?



>Could it be that telstra are passing your browsing history in real time to
a marketing company who are then looking at the site to gather some sort of
marking info on the site you were just looking at.
Would explain why they are not looking at there own cache.



Last night I had a dream.  I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the
Lord.  Across the sky flashed scenes from my life.  For each scene, I
noticed three sets of footprints in the sand: one belonged to me, one to
the Lord, and one to a marketing company in the US who was paying Telstra
for my exact movements in real time.





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