<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Joke is on the marketing company thanks to CGN unless translation logs are also being provided!</div><div><br></div><div>Hrmm Where's my hat...<br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone. </div>
</div><div><br>On 25/06/2012, at 17:26, Seamus Ryan <<a href="mailto:s.ryan@uber.com.au">s.ryan@uber.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Interesting, I saw the exact same results.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just to throw a spanner in the works (if it’s not already), I only noticed the mentioned behaviour when using my personal Telstra mobile.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My business/work supplied Telstra mobile was not followed up by a request from any additional IP’s
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Needs more foil….</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Seamus</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 June 2012 4:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able to speak to a chap in `Level 2 Technical Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is a part of Telstra's core system, where they track the websites you have visited for bill reporting purposes.
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In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I have a reference for this call), that he could request billing to show a list of websites I have visited and how long I was on those websites.<br>
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He informed me that these services hitting the same website is tied in with that system.<br>
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It doesn't make sense why they would hit the site again as a GET, as they could pull this from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of scraping the website to gain extra insight about what i'm browsing, would suggest they would keep the path/query string instead
of just hitting the root of the site, to actually see what content I am browsing.<br>
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I was also informed that I can not opt-out of this occurring, so I plan to contact ACCC or TIO in the morning to see what they can tell me about the practise (who would you think is better?).<br>
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Interesting indeed.<br>
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On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric, you should check this out.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm">http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm</a></p>
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<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Pinkerton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 June 2012 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matt Perkins; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">></span>Could it be that telstra are passing your browsing history in real time to a marketing company who are then looking at the site to gather some sort of marking info on the site you were just looking at.<br>
Would explain why they are not looking at there own cache. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Last night I had a dream. I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord. Across the sky flashed scenes from my life. For each scene, I noticed three sets of footprints in the sand: one belonged to
me, one to the Lord, and one to a marketing company in the US who was paying Telstra for my exact movements in real time.</span></p>
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