[AusNOG] AAB Statement

[Vitaly Osipov]

> <Monday morning lack of caffeine delurk rant>
> Heh, A wannabe conspiracy theorist might even start to add up recent events
> and suggest that between this NBN and **ALL** its associated hidden agenda
> and secret deals, the GAFF (Great Aussie Firewall Filter), the Attorney
> Generals Dept wanting all browsing history stored along with other things
> like 'Cert Australia' etc. Notice there has been a complete lack of public
> mention of the DSD and its role around the NBN with is CSOC anywhere here?
> Why? All just incase Aussies (& ex pats) may become guilty until proven
> innocent? Surely this would never happen where you could be assumed guilty,
> then held for 2 weeks and not allowed to go home... pfft. Go figure.
>

Conroy's filter cannot be implemented in full unless they firewall the
country off the rest of the world, that is absolutely true (proxies).

If you want to go into the serious conspiracies, though, consider how
NBN will help the "smart grid" and how the end goal of smart grid is
to facilitate implementation of personal electricity tariffs with
half-hour precision instead of day/night as it is now. Then also
remotely controlled power meters to switch you off, as they are
already planning to do in the UK, I have a paper about this somewhere.

I think I am getting too far down this particular rabbit hole now...


Regards,
Vitaly




On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Darren Worley <darren at worley.org.au> wrote:
>> And as I've replied, if he can't, then surely he can approach
>> people within Telstra that could.  I'm not sure about others
>> on this list, but I would like to know if in PM Rudds
>> desperate last days NBN 2.0 was condemned to Telstra
>> ownership before it's was even born.
>
>> It's typical answer avoidance.
>
>> It's funny how there is no problem in Telstra people coming
>> on the list and saying how ridiculous such an idea is, yet a
>> simple "true" or "not true" answer to dispel the rumour is
>> not as forthcoming.
>>
>> [b]
>
>
> For me, its not about the actual answer to the rumour we receive, but the
> honesty of it and the behind closed door deals & secrecy. This is only _one_
> rumour. My 2 Questions are
>  1: What else are we not aware of??
>  2: and more importantly WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY & WHY??
> Governments and documents of this nature should be open and transparent to
> avoid any potential for rumours. Just sometimes, a good ol 'please explain'
> to 'keep the bastards honest' can go a long way. Pity someone cant wikileak?
>
> <Monday morning lack of caffeine delurk rant>
> Heh, A wannabe conspiracy theorist might even start to add up recent events
> and suggest that between this NBN and **ALL** its associated hidden agenda
> and secret deals, the GAFF (Great Aussie Firewall Filter), the Attorney
> Generals Dept wanting all browsing history stored along with other things
> like 'Cert Australia' etc. Notice there has been a complete lack of public
> mention of the DSD and its role around the NBN with is CSOC anywhere here?
> Why? All just incase Aussies (& ex pats) may become guilty until proven
> innocent? Surely this would never happen where you could be assumed guilty,
> then held for 2 weeks and not allowed to go home... pfft. Go figure.
>
> Personally, I don't **NEED* an NBNv1, sure, I **LIKE** the idea of one,
> heck, one day I may eventually **WANT** one, but I don't **NEED** one right
> now. In the meantime, I don't NEED the most expensive shiny new red car,
> I'll bet my existing one (or a 1/10th priced or even a v3 model) will get an
> overhaul soon and be able to do almost everything the red one can, as
> history as taught me that my 1200/75 modem upgrade in '88 did. I still use
> the same copper 22 years later. Funny that huh?
>
> At the end of the day, the nation voted, and today we're down to bribery and
> parliamentary reform to find out what type of NBN we could be moving forward
> with.
>
> Oh, trivial Q for today, by how much would Tel$tra's ~48V power bill on the
> existing CAN be reduced by with FTTP?
> I'll get back in my box & stfu now. :)
> </conspiracy-sarcasm-troll>
>
> :Darren
>
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