[AusNOG] AAB Statement

Mark Smith nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org
Sat Sep 4 11:21:23 EST 2010


On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:12:25 +1000
Stephen Gillies <max at 3rdbasenetworks.net.au> wrote:

> On 04/09/10 00:03, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > 
> > You've never been on a congested cable modem run then. :)
> 
> Maybe you didn't read my whole post, that's ok. The link from 2007 was
> that cable companies have spent billions of dollars trying to reduce
> congestion on their cable networks, and neighbours often fight with each
> other over congestion.
> 
> I can tell when the kids up the street are hitting the torrent sites
> (they watch True Blood and seed for about 2 days, so I wait about 24
> hours and get it at almost 8Mb/s).
> 
> > What you're saying is "DSL run from phone exchanges over long copper runs,
> > rather than installing small mini-exchanges (internode style, fe) blows.
> 
> Actually I'm saying that DSL and Cable both suck, and to get a
> competitive market where users have the choice of multiple providers*  I
> believe the government supported build of a something-to-the-home would
> be beneficial.
> 
> I'd like a wholesale FTTH network, please.
> 
> I'd like ISPs who decide to offer access to my suburb to have a level
> playing field for last mile. I believe ISPs should be focused on the
> layer 3 and above services they're offering, they should spend their
> money building content networks not last mile infrastructure, and
> offerings should be differentiated through new products not speed and
> the ability to provide a service.

Otherwise known as a walled garden.

 I have a dream.
> 
> 
> Max
> max at 3rdbasenetworks.net.au
> 
> * not just the provider who
> 	* runs HFC down a particular street
> 	* happens to be able to service a street with LTE/3G/wimax/wifi
> 	* has access to copper inside 4km dslam to user or
> 	* has put their own fibre in
> 
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