[AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"

[Andrew Cox]

Hey Craig, are you able to supply a link to that presentation?
(is it this one? 
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog46/abstracts.php?pt=MTM3MyZuYW5vZzQ2&nm=nanog46 
<http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog46/abstracts.php?pt=MTM3MyZuYW5vZzQ2&nm=nanog46>)

- Andrew

On 19/05/2010 2:37 PM, craig at askings.com.au wrote:
>> According to this (http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/dfp/all/?country=au)
>> only 25% of allocated ipv6 is actually being announced in Australia.
>>
>> It's hard for smaller operators to justify rolling out ipv6 at the moment
>> unless the big boys get on board, maybe it's time for us smaller operators
>> to start putting our foot up someone's backside at our upstream providers
>> to get ipv6 moving forward in a realistic time frame.
>>      
> We were lucky that our main upstream does ipv6 natively (Hi macca,
> james!), between that and the local PIPE IX our v6 route table is looking
> pretty good. Are you in a rack near by another ISP who is in the global
> table, perhaps you could ask them to snake you an ethernet cable and some
> ipv6. Failing that go for a he.net tunnel. It isn't pretty but it is
> better than nothing.
>
>
>    
>> My scenario is this at the moment, I have a small base of customers
>> utilising ipv4, I could go ahead and re-deck our core out and ipv6 enable
>> it, however my up streams aren't doing ipv6 yet (and no replies back from
>> them as to when they will be), so I've basically got no global ipv6
>> connectivity. Management isn't going to open the cheque book until the
>> customers are screaming for it and my providers don't seem to give a hoot
>> about it at the moment, possibly more screaming from us will push this.
>> Also worth mentioning at the moment is the small amount of resources on
>> the internet that are ipv6 capable, I cant see a huge amount of traffic on
>> the network being ipv6 (so no point buying another pipe to another
>> upstream just to gain global ipv6 connectivity)
>>      
> I pretty much offer ipv6 to all our ethernet connected clients so far only
> two have taken me up on that offer.
>
>    
>> Unfortunately I don't believe for a second the small community of tech
>> savvy internet consumers is going to make enough of a song&  dance about
>> ipv6 for it to have any real impact.
>>
>> So what to do? I guess all I can do is sit and wait for the time being.
>>      
> Don't wait, get a tunnel start at your border routers and work back into
> the core and then to the rest of your network. There is a really good
> presentation on the NANOG website covering this very subject.
>
> Craig.
>
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