[AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"

[Skeeve Stevens]

I agree actually.

I've interviewed so many young people whose resumes look like their full of talent and potential... then you interview them and sometimes they can talk well, but sometimes not even that.

With the ones who can... ask them a couple of questions and they fall flat on their face. 'what is the netmask for a /29'..... 'a what?'... 'get out'... 'but I could look it up'... 'just get out'.  Or the saddest one I ever had. Guy had got his CCNA a week before. 'How would you change the duplex of Interface FastEthernet 0/1... tell me all the steps including how to get into config mode'. 'well.. I'd need my notes, but I think you would show run then edit the interface and umm umm what is duplex?'... 'get out'.

When I'm reading resumes and interviewing there are a lot of 'tells' on how clueful someone is, how passionate they are about what they want to be doing.  And if I get one bit on Gen Y attitude (what is in it for me), then get the hell out.

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Hood
Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:54 AM
To: Karl Kloppenborg
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"

Not trying to start one of those great mailing list wars but, I am also only 19 and working as a network engineer as well.

I just don't like the fact that theres some people of our age, who jump on google and download the latest copy of the pass4sures of CCNA, go and get their CCNA and then some how land a job programming routers for ISPA or CompanyB without every having touched a router prompt before. I've seen it happen far too often. I guess you could also blame the management or HR departments of the companies for hiring but hey... not the point of this discussion.

I think the learning stage is important and having the opportunities to be able to work your way up the chain is all well and good. I just think it shouldn' tbe done by being "thrown in the deep end" and having to fix production equipment you have no idea with whats going on, but knowing it back to front by the end. For the main reason that should all of the external companies have to suffer because you've been "thrown in the deep end" have no idea what your doing.

I learn't this way and I can remember one specific situation where I had never touched an exchange mail server and got sent out to a job where one was not relaying mail at all. Thus the mail server is down and I had people in other companies suffering because they could not send emails to this company because of my incompetency and lack of knowledge of what a smart host was. Would never put someone through it again, that was one of the most stressful occassions of my life.

Thats just my 2 cents.

Daniel
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