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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree actually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve interviewed so many young people whose resumes look
like their full of talent and potential... then you interview them and
sometimes they can talk well, but sometimes not even that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>With the ones who can... ask them a couple of questions and they
fall flat on their face. ‘what is the netmask for a /29’..... ‘a
what?’... ‘get out’... ‘but I could look it up’...
‘just get out’. Or the saddest one I ever had. Guy had got
his CCNA a week before. ‘How would you change the duplex of Interface
FastEthernet 0/1... tell me all the steps including how to get into config mode’.
‘well.. I’d need my notes, but I think you would show run then edit
the interface and umm umm what is duplex?’... ‘get out’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>When I’m reading resumes and interviewing there are a lot
of ‘tells’ on how clueful someone is, how passionate they are about
what they want to be doing. And if I get one bit on Gen Y attitude (what
is in it for me), then get the hell out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Hood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Karl Kloppenborg<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Not trying to start one of those great mailing list wars
but, I am also only 19 and working as a network engineer as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I just don't like the fact that theres some people of our
age, who jump on google and download the latest copy of the pass4sures of CCNA,
go and get their CCNA and then some how land a job programming routers for ISPA
or CompanyB without every having touched a router prompt before. I've seen it
happen far too often. I guess you could also blame the management or HR
departments of the companies for hiring but hey... not the point of this
discussion. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I think the learning stage is important and having the
opportunities to be able to work your way up the chain is all well and good. I
just think it shouldn' tbe done by being "thrown in the deep end" and
having to fix production equipment you have no idea with whats going on, but
knowing it back to front by the end. For the main reason that should all of the
external companies have to suffer because you've been "thrown in the deep
end" have no idea what your doing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I learn't this way and I can remember one specific situation
where I had never touched an exchange mail server and got sent out to a job
where one was not relaying mail at all. Thus the mail server is down and I had
people in other companies suffering because they could not send emails to this
company because of my incompetency and lack of knowledge of what a smart host
was. Would never put someone through it again, that was one of the most
stressful occassions of my life. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thats just my 2 cents. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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