[AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history

[Phillip Grasso]

rights are eroded one bit at a time.

first its protect the children
then its data rentention policy
then can easily creep to 'illegal to bypass filter / data retention'. (with
arguments like only pedophiles want to bypass the filter).

Where does it stop? it doesn't!

*"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
nothing." (Edmund Burke)*



On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Mark Smith <
nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:44:31 +1000
> Dmitri Kalintsev <dek735 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if what they mean ISPs to retain are their smtp/http/proxy
> _server_
> > (i.e. actual servers that a given ISP owns/hosts) logs, or do they want
> > something based on DPI?
> >
>
> The methods don't matter to them - that's not their problem.
>
> What they want is to be constantly collecting evidence against you,
> because they assume that eventually you'll commit a crime. I don't and
> will not accept being an assumed criminal.
>
> When the IESG considered whether adding LI into Internet standards was
> appropriate, Jeff Schiller, IESG member and MIT network manager said
> the following (http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/10/31895)
>
> "We should not be building surveillance technology into standards. Law
> enforcement was not supposed to be easy. Where it is easy, it's called
> a police state," Schiller said on Tuesday.
>
> Think about the last two sentences.
>
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > -- Dmitri
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Rob Byrnes <rbyrnes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/govt-wants-isps-to-record-user-data-339303785.htm
> > >
> > > Not only will there be a firewall to contend with, but possibly a data
> > > retention policy ... where's that book I was reading ... by some bloke
> > > called Orwell.
> > >
> > > Any members of this list been contacted for "discussion"?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Idiot :
> > >    A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human
> > > affairs has always been dominant and controlling.
> > > (Ambrose Bierce - The Devils Dictionary)
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