[AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history

[Skeeve Stevens]

Sorry, I haven't read the entire thread in case this has been commented on already.

But isn't this just like the filtering situation - can't most people still bypass this sort of thing?

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of phil colbourn
Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 11:51 PM
To: Matthew Zobel
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history


On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Matthew Zobel <matthew.zobel at gmail.com<mailto:matthew.zobel at gmail.com>> wrote:
Does anyone else notice the gross hypocrisy here?
I did.
  Conroy calls out Google for catching personal information on users, then the Government wants ISP to hold all this kind of information.  This Government is a shambles.

Can I suggest '... possibly catching personal information ...'

If Google got anything, it was an occasional packet:

1. Most probably with a NAT IP address on the user's network - not identifiable
2. SSID - not identifiable
3. Only unencrypted data
4. Since they were taking photos, it probably only happened when there was good light, say 9:00 to 15:00 - this would be off-peak for most homes - probably just a bunch of malware calling home or the odd SPAM-bot delivering it's mail.
5. Possibly with a real internet IP address of the remote server, but probably not a URL
6. Probably a few fragments of a HTTP request, maybe a DNS request/response, maybe a SMTP/POP3 fragment (has anyone done the math to see how much data they might have collected?)

The proposal seems to collect the ISP subscriber (identifying the residence), URL, and probably every packet header.

But what good is a URL is you don't know what was on the page at that time? ... or do they already have that?

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