[AusNOG] APNIC WHOIS

[Terry Manderson]

of note is a policy proposal coming through (Nov 2010 implementation) is Prop-079:

http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-079

"This is a proposal to introduce a mandatory abuse contact field for objects in the APNIC Whois Database to provide a more efficient way for abuse reports to reach the correct network contact."

While that in itself doesn't address the staleness of registry data, prop-084 which should be discussed at APNIC30 on the Gold Coast might.. maybe...:

"This is a proposal for APNIC to regularly contact all APNIC current account holders with resources in the APNIC Whois Database to ask them to actively check that all their details in whois are up to date."

That said, this APNIC meeting will be pretty light. Only one policy proposal to discuss in the policy SIG - I guess a lot of delegates will get some serious beach/golf/casino time. ;-)

Cheers
Terry


On 20/07/2010, at 4:46 PM, Darren Moss wrote:

> 
> If only the database was actually properly maintained and you *could* find contacts for troublesome hosts.
> 
> I have lost count of the number of networks we've blocked because the contact information is stale or wrong.
> 
> I suggested many times to APNIC that they have some method of ensuring contact information was up to date - ie: as part of IP Allocation to members - but they were not interested. 
> 
> If not APNIC, who should / could do this ?
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of p8x
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] APNIC WHOIS
> 
> I would say you are fine.
> 
> On the APNIC whois page:
> 
> "The APNIC Whois Database is a publicly searchable database detailing address usage within the Asia Pacific region. The results of any search are provided purely for operational purposes (such as finding the authoritative contact for a troublesome machine) and are not to be used for commercial or marketing purposes." [1]
> 
> On the privacy page:
> 
> "Some of the personal information you provide may be publicly registered in the APNIC Whois Database. This is limited to contact details relating to the allocation of specific public Internet resources.
> 
> Please note that in relation to these network contact details, the APNIC Whois Database allows organizations to register "role objects" in place of personal details." [2]
> 
> It sounds a little odd that they would think the whois data is private. 
> I wonder if they have fake whois data on their domains.
> 
> [1]: http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whois_search2/using-whois
> [2]: http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/privacy [Section 2.1]
> 
> 
> On 20/07/2010 1:58 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:
>> Hey Noggers,
>> 
>> this is probably just another silly question, but I am having a 
>> dispute with someone over them claiming that whois information is 
>> private information about their company and thus I can't post it anywhere I want.
>> Ie, post the whois with a comment on a public domain / forum.
>> 
>> I claim that this is indeed public information and can be used by anyone?
>> 
>> However I thought before I make a total idiot out of myself I would 
>> ask you just incase I am wrong and the details are infact "Confidential"
>> 
>> *
>> Cheers!
>> Karl Kloppenborg*
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