[AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the impending mandatatory censorship scheme?

[Nathan Sullivan]

Hehe, something I noticed that was quite funny, and coincidental im sure at
the same time.


nathan at desktop:~$ nslookup www.familyfirst.org.au

Non-authoritative answer:
www.familyfirst.org.au canonical name = familyfirst.org.au.
Name: familyfirst.org.au
Address: 203.59.136.197

nathan at desktop:~$ whois -h whois.cymru.com 203.59.136.197
AS      | IP               | AS Name
4802    | 203.59.136.197   | ASN-IINET iiNet Limited

Enough said... :P


Nathan.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Peter Adkins <peter.adkins at kernelpicnic.net
> wrote:

> I think one of the major issues which you may come across is the
> reluctance, from a PR standpoint, for a company to oppose the filter in the
> public arena. iiNet are the only major provider which I am aware that have
> done so (however I may be wrong here), other than that it seems to be people
> working independently.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm aware of at least one provider which notified their
> staff that they were NOT to comment on the filtering situation in the public
> arena -- fearing that it may come back as the companies opinion on the
> situation -- even to the point of trying to prevent their staff from voicing
> their opinion on social networking sites.
>
> It seems that some providers would rather the issue be fought for them,
> rather than taking hold of the situation.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Phillip Grasso <phillip.grasso at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do you
>> think Conroy has it in for Google.
>>
>> The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there, so
>> Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a possibly
>> few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say things such as
>> 'industry consultation/support' etc.
>>
>> How many Telco/ISP are there in Australia, and how many would
>> decree publicly they do not support filtering/censorship?
>>
>> If we get a big enough list, that will immediately be media worthy, so
>> every time it is mentioned in the press, we have a hard stat on how many of
>> the ISP/Telcos actually support this scheme. Yes Conroy will dismiss it, but
>> its yet another salvo. <insert reputable organisation to represent us>.
>>
>> Until we get an industry group together, I'm happy to collate that
>> information, so if your organisation is willing to join the list (at the
>> moment, its just a list opposing the filter). Please send me a private
>> message so I can gather the details.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>wrote:
>>
>>>  Phillip...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We know Google is against filtering... but are they willing to come out
>>> if heavy support and promotion of this fight ?  They do have the media’s
>>> ear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>>>
>>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>>
>>> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
>>>
>>> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>>>
>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>>>
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> NOC, NOC, who's there?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
>>> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Phillip Grasso
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:28 PM
>>> *To:* Phil Pierotti
>>> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
>>> impending mandatatory censorship scheme?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the first thing we need to do is organise ourselves, either
>>> working with existing efforts (preference) or forming our own small working
>>> groups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To this end, i'm thinking about hosting a gathering next Wednesday
>>> evening in Sydney to strategize our next steps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If your keen, please contact me off-list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Phil Pierotti <
>>> phil.pierotti at platformnetworks.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> So the obvious question(s) not being asked include:
>>>
>>> (1) Will there be a piece/feature/segment in The Program for AusNOG04
>>> regarding -> The Impending Censorship Program and What Can/Are/Will We , As
>>> An Industry, Do About It?
>>> (2) Will many-and-various media-presences be requested to record the
>>> proceedings (and, ideally, report on such)
>>>
>>> And yes, (1) is obviously and clearly a Network Operations issue.
>>>
>>> If we do or at least *achieve* nothing, then it will have significant
>>> operational consequences amounting to non-trivial financial impact.
>>>
>>> Phil P
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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