<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Hehe, something I noticed that was quite funny, and coincidental im sure at the same time.<div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>nathan@desktop:~$ nslookup <a href="http://www.familyfirst.org.au">www.familyfirst.org.au</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Non-authoritative answer:</div><div><a href="http://www.familyfirst.org.au">www.familyfirst.org.au</a><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>canonical name = <a href="http://familyfirst.org.au">familyfirst.org.au</a>.</div>
<div>Name:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><a href="http://familyfirst.org.au">familyfirst.org.au</a></div><div>Address: 203.59.136.197</div><div><br></div><div>nathan@desktop:~$ whois -h <a href="http://whois.cymru.com">whois.cymru.com</a> 203.59.136.197</div>
<div>AS | IP | AS Name</div><div>4802 | 203.59.136.197 | ASN-IINET iiNet Limited</div></div><div><br></div><div>Enough said... :P</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nathan.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Peter Adkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter.adkins@kernelpicnic.net">peter.adkins@kernelpicnic.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I think one of the major issues which you may come across is the reluctance, from a PR standpoint, for a company to oppose the filter in the public arena. iiNet are the only major provider which I am aware that have done so (however I may be wrong here), other than that it seems to be people working independently. <div>
<br></div><div>Unfortunately, I'm aware of at least one provider which notified their staff that they were NOT to comment on the filtering situation in the public arena -- fearing that it may come back as the companies opinion on the situation -- even to the point of trying to prevent their staff from voicing their opinion on social networking sites.<div>
<div><br></div><div>It seems that some providers would rather the issue be fought for them, rather than taking hold of the situation.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Phillip Grasso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do you think Conroy has it in for Google. <div><br></div>
<div>The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there, so Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a possibly few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say things such as 'industry consultation/support' etc.<div>
<br></div><div>How many Telco/ISP are there in Australia, and how many would decree publicly they do not support filtering/censorship?</div><div><br><div>If we get a big enough list, that will immediately be media worthy, so every time it is mentioned in the press, we have a hard stat on how many of the ISP/Telcos actually support this scheme. Yes Conroy will dismiss it, but its yet another salvo. <insert reputable organisation to represent us>.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Until we get an industry group together, I'm happy to collate that information, so if your organisation is willing to join the list (at the moment, its just a list opposing the filter). Please send me a private message so I can gather the details.</div>
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<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Phillip... </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We know Google is against filtering... but are they willing to
come out if heavy support and promotion of this fight ? They do have the
media’s ear.</span></p><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">NOC, NOC, who's there?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phillip Grasso<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Pierotti<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
impending mandatatory censorship scheme?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the first thing we need to do is organise ourselves,
either working with existing efforts (preference) or forming our own small
working groups. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To this end, i'm thinking about hosting a gathering next
Wednesday evening in Sydney to strategize our next steps. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If your keen, please contact me off-list.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Phil Pierotti <<a href="mailto:phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net" target="_blank">phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So the obvious question(s) not being asked include:<br>
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(1) Will there be a piece/feature/segment in The Program for AusNOG04 regarding
-> The Impending Censorship Program and What Can/Are/Will We , As An
Industry, Do About It?<br>
(2) Will many-and-various media-presences be requested to record the
proceedings (and, ideally, report on such)<br>
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And yes, (1) is obviously and clearly a Network Operations issue.<br>
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If we do or at least *achieve* nothing, then it will have significant
operational consequences amounting to non-trivial financial impact.<br>
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Phil P</p>
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