[AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the impending mandatatory censorship scheme?

[Peter Adkins]

I think one of the major issues which you may come across is the reluctance,
from a PR standpoint, for a company to oppose the filter in the public
arena. iiNet are the only major provider which I am aware that have done so
(however I may be wrong here), other than that it seems to be people
working independently.

Unfortunately, I'm aware of at least one provider which notified their staff
that they were NOT to comment on the filtering situation in the public arena
-- fearing that it may come back as the companies opinion on the situation
-- even to the point of trying to prevent their staff from voicing their
opinion on social networking sites.

It seems that some providers would rather the issue be fought for them,
rather than taking hold of the situation.


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Phillip Grasso <phillip.grasso at gmail.com>wrote:

> its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do you think
> Conroy has it in for Google.
>
> The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there, so
> Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a possibly
> few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say things such as
> 'industry consultation/support' etc.
>
> How many Telco/ISP are there in Australia, and how many would
> decree publicly they do not support filtering/censorship?
>
> If we get a big enough list, that will immediately be media worthy, so
> every time it is mentioned in the press, we have a hard stat on how many of
> the ISP/Telcos actually support this scheme. Yes Conroy will dismiss it, but
> its yet another salvo. <insert reputable organisation to represent us>.
>
> Until we get an industry group together, I'm happy to collate that
> information, so if your organisation is willing to join the list (at the
> moment, its just a list opposing the filter). Please send me a private
> message so I can gather the details.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>wrote:
>
>>  Phillip...
>>
>>
>>
>> We know Google is against filtering... but are they willing to come out if
>> heavy support and promotion of this fight ?  They do have the media’s ear.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>>
>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>
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>> --
>>
>> NOC, NOC, who's there?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
>> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Phillip Grasso
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:28 PM
>> *To:* Phil Pierotti
>> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
>> impending mandatatory censorship scheme?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the first thing we need to do is organise ourselves, either
>> working with existing efforts (preference) or forming our own small working
>> groups.
>>
>>
>>
>> To this end, i'm thinking about hosting a gathering next Wednesday evening
>> in Sydney to strategize our next steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> If your keen, please contact me off-list.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Phil Pierotti <
>> phil.pierotti at platformnetworks.net> wrote:
>>
>> So the obvious question(s) not being asked include:
>>
>> (1) Will there be a piece/feature/segment in The Program for AusNOG04
>> regarding -> The Impending Censorship Program and What Can/Are/Will We , As
>> An Industry, Do About It?
>> (2) Will many-and-various media-presences be requested to record the
>> proceedings (and, ideally, report on such)
>>
>> And yes, (1) is obviously and clearly a Network Operations issue.
>>
>> If we do or at least *achieve* nothing, then it will have significant
>> operational consequences amounting to non-trivial financial impact.
>>
>> Phil P
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