[AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list

[Michael RISBY]

I had no idea that AUSNOG had the potential to come under the authority of Conroy?

Fact of the matter is, it is essentially a public list, that being said everyone is responsible for what they post.

I personally am a long time reader, short time poster as are a lot of subscribers, AUSNOG its self is a great informative tool and I believe should remain public.

My 2 cents worth.

Cheers, Michael

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Paul Foote
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 1:09 PM
To: David Hughes
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list

I agree with most of what you have laid out, but I think the whole public shaming thing will actually increase unnecessary noise on this list, and it that kind of derails the lists purpose.

My idea instead:
* have a 2 month or so's delay on the publicly accessible archives, so that way if somebody is contacted regarding things they said on the list within a month of doing so (a month in journo/sales time gaurentee's that if they picked it up from archives it will be a cold story/expired lead).
* Anybody breaking the rules gets reported to a moderator who then discusses the breach of charter with the sales guy/journo and repeat offenders silently get removed from the list.

Cheers,

Paul.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:37 AM, David Hughes <David at hughes.com.au<mailto:David at hughes.com.au>> wrote:


All,

I personally have no issue with our friends in the journalism community being on this list.  I can only dream about a day when we complain that the tech journalists in this country are too well educated  :)  The list charter also has nothing to say on who can join the list or read the information we distribute over this list.  Graham al at CommsDay have been associated with AusNOG for years and we value their support.  They also participate openly on this list and use any information available here appropriately.  As Graham stated, if 10 people here mention an Optus outage he may chase the carrier.  To my knowledge he and his team don't chase the individuals on this list.

The list charter is pretty clearly written.  If people on this list approach people directly as a result of their participation on this list then they are in breach of the charter.  Sales people SHOULD NOT hound list members unless they specifically ask for sales contact off-list.  The same applies to journalists.  If you write an email it's public by definition but it doesn't give every press hound on the planet a right to ring your office looking for an exclusive.

Personally I think this list works quite well.  The signal to noise ratio remains quite high which can always be a problem as the size of a list increases.  Happy to discuss other opinions but I don't see a reason to change things.  What list members could do however is post to the list when they are hassled directly by sales folk, journo's etc etc.  The "public shaming" may reduce the frequency.  It will also let us see what's going on so that action against individual list members can be taken if it's appropriate.


Thank

David
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