[AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list

[Paul Foote]

I agree with most of what you have laid out, but I think the whole public
shaming thing will actually increase unnecessary noise on this list, and it
that kind of derails the lists purpose.

My idea instead:
* have a 2 month or so's delay on the publicly accessible archives, so that
way if somebody is contacted regarding things they said on the list within a
month of doing so (a month in journo/sales time gaurentee's that if they
picked it up from archives it will be a cold story/expired lead).
* Anybody breaking the rules gets reported to a moderator who then discusses
the breach of charter with the sales guy/journo and repeat offenders
silently get removed from the list.

Cheers,

Paul.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:37 AM, David Hughes <David at hughes.com.au> wrote:

>
> All,
>
> I personally have no issue with our friends in the journalism community
> being on this list.  I can only dream about a day when we complain that the
> tech journalists in this country are too well educated  :)  The list charter
> also has nothing to say on who can join the list or read the information we
> distribute over this list.  Graham al at CommsDay have been associated with
> AusNOG for years and we value their support.  They also participate openly
> on this list and use any information available here appropriately.  As
> Graham stated, if 10 people here mention an Optus outage he may chase the
> carrier.  To my knowledge he and his team don't chase the individuals on
> this list.
>
> The list charter is pretty clearly written.  If people on this list
> approach people directly as a result of their participation on this list
> then they are in breach of the charter.  Sales people SHOULD NOT hound list
> members unless they specifically ask for sales contact off-list.  The same
> applies to journalists.  If you write an email it's public by definition but
> it doesn't give every press hound on the planet a right to ring your office
> looking for an exclusive.
>
> Personally I think this list works quite well.  The signal to noise ratio
> remains quite high which can always be a problem as the size of a list
> increases.  Happy to discuss other opinions but I don't see a reason to
> change things.  What list members could do however is post to the list when
> they are hassled directly by sales folk, journo's etc etc.  The "public
> shaming" may reduce the frequency.  It will also let us see what's going on
> so that action against individual list members can be taken if it's
> appropriate.
>
>
> Thank
>
> David
> ...
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