[AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list

[Neil Fenemor]

The issue with a closed list is where do you set the bar for entry?
You could go with having an ASN, but that could potentially exclude
Universities and the like. Likewise a particular role in a company
wouldn't suffice, because you'd be excluding some very valuable
resources.

IMO a closed list really is not the option, engineers just have to
watch what they say. There's a reason I'm a long time reader, first
time poster here ;)

On 14 April 2010 19:27, McDonald Richards <macca at vocus.com.au> wrote:
> The AusNOG archives are publicly available so whatever you post is going to
> be available for the whole world to read - so I'd be careful.
>
> Maybe we start a closed ausnog-ops list which isn't so open? :)
>
> Macca
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ben Cornish
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 5:19 PM
> To: Bruce Forster; ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list
>
> I am more concerned around the closed natured of the list... or lack of :)
> more around a innocent post on here ... turning into your name and company
> on the news.....
>
> Can you really talk shop or specifics anymore without triple thinking about
> what your posting ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Forster
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 4:50 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list
>
> Totally agree with what Ben said, also a little off topic but, far too many
> sales people on here.
> It's one thing to ask about capacity in x location for some leads to who
> might be active in an area, it's another thing to get 50 emails from sales
> guys, not to mention the sales guys following up on the sale.
>
> I don't like being harassed but that's just me...
>
>
> -bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ben Cornish
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 4:41 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] List charter Vs Reporters on the list
>
> Passing comment....
>
> There seems to be alot of reporters on this list.
> Ive had several calls today re the optus issue email i posted.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of AusNOG
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:01 AM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG list charter
>
>
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