[AusNOG] Soul/TPG buying Pipe ...

[Matt McDonough]

Rather than lament what's happened (though I agree it is a sad day for the
industry), I'd like to congratulate Bev and Steve on what they've done for
the industry through PIPE.  As most people have pointed out, PIPE have been
a very generous sponsor/supporter of the industry and it's events and an
integral player in the wholesale space to ISPs and content providers.

Lets just hope the new owners (assuming this all goes through) don't change
the style and input PIPE have provided to the industry.  I'm not overly
confident in there being no changes however ...

Congrats on the success and have fun at the PIPE Christmas parties lined up
over the next couple of weeks.  I bet someone will be letting loose ;)

Matt

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Matthew McDonough

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2009/11/11 Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>

> All,
>
> I'm quite disappointed in this move.... yes, it is just my little opinion,
> but it is mine to give.
>
> TPG's takeover of Soul, the way they run their network operations - from
> experience and the feedback of quite a few Soul staff, does not inspire me
> with any confidence with what will happen to Pipe.  TPG basically gutted
> Soul in several areas and I can't see how, unless they've changed the way
> they do things, that this will be any good at all for Pipe.
>
> Pipe, driven by Bevan and Steve have been amazing for this industry,
> building it, supporting it and making what it is today... I have never ever
> experienced TPG caring at all for the industry as a whole... sponsoring
> anything industry related or supporting it in other ways... if they have, I
> would like to be corrected.
>
> Now Wholesale.  I've been a big advocate of Pipe as a wholesale provider
> over anyone else - simply because of how much they've given the industry and
> my love for the guys.... but as a wholesale provider they never competed
> with ISP's in any real way.  TPG is a retail based ISP primary.. Soul does
> other things, but again they shut down their wholesale business of DSL and
> other things very quickly after the takeover by TPG.  What will happen to
> Pipe? Wholesale shutdown - prices up.. peering killed off?
>
> One question I would really like to ask is 'Why Bevan why?'... I realise
> you guys together only had 27% - but did you have no choice?  I am sure I am
> not the only one asking 'How could you do this to us?' Is it just about the
> money?
>
> In the end.. whatever happens, we will adapt.... you never really do know
> how things will turn out.  This might be a good thing... not that I can see
> how at the moment.  If they leave Pipe alone and let it do what it does
> best... great... if they gut it and integrate... sad panda for all.
>
> I see things like Pipe drinks disappearing, AUSNOG sponsorship
> disappearing, and amazing industry innovation - like PPC1 - things like that
> not happening anymore.
>
> I remember Bevans' speech at the Pipe Xmas part in 2008... about being here
> for the small guy... What happened.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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>
>
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