[AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations

Matthew Moyle-Croft mmc at internode.com.au
Thu Mar 5 16:01:29 EST 2009


I was thinking of the 7201 which has 4 GE but indeed NPE-G2s are 3xGE.

MMC

On 05/03/2009, at 3:27 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:

> Also, you probably mean extra FE (0/2)
>
>
> G1:
> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
> interface GigabitEthernet0/2
> interface GigabitEthernet0/3
>
> G2:
> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
> interface FastEthernet0/2
> interface GigabitEthernet0/2
> interface GigabitEthernet0/3
>
> Which you will note is inserted between the 1st and 2nd GigE for  
> some drug induced reason.
>
> ...Skeeve
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 3:26 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
>
> For "much faster VPN" read "much faster CPU".
>
> Trying to think about too many things at once.
>
> MMC
>
> On 05/03/2009, at 2:50 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>
>
> Skeeve's recommendation is a good one:
>
> 7206VXR-NPE-G1s are the swiss army knife - well debugged, well  
> understood, easy to obtain parts new and after market and will be  
> supported for a long time to come and easily handle full BGP tables.
>
> Even though they're no longer something we use in our core they are  
> now excellent PE routers for terminating customer sessions or  
> smaller LNSes etc.  We've got a frightening number still humming  
> away and unlikely to be replaced.  Because of this Cisco are  
> unlikely to EOL them for a LONG time to come (think of the ROI of  
> that platform for them).
>
> (We've got many dozens - I wouldn't want to try and count - it'd  
> take too long).
>
> The news G2s are nice as they have an extra GE port and much faster  
> VPN BUT remember they need SFPs (SFP slots only for 2 of the ports).
>
> MMC
>
> On 05/03/2009, at 2:15 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
>
> 7200-G1 - 512mb mtp (max throughput)
> 7200-G2 - 1024mb mtp
>
> They have 3 * GE
>
> 2851 with an extra GE would be pushing it with 112mb mtp
>
> 3825 - need two extra gig ports - 179 mtp
> 3845 - need two extra gig ports - 256 mtp
>
> A G1 which can either be in 7200 form or 7301 form.
>
> A G2 can be in 7204/6 form or 7201 form.
>
> HWIC-GE cards are more expensive that PA-GE's.
>
> My recommendation is a 7204VXR-NPE-G1 for cost, expandability (can  
> go to 4 GE - maybe 5 if the bandwidth points aren't counted from  
> slot 0 NPE), or a G2 if you can afford it.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Michael Bethune
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 1:17 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
>
> Hiya,
>
> Just doing some back of the envelope calculations and I was wondering
> if
> anyone had some ball park ideas?
>
> What kind of non-end of life Cisco router model could
> handle domestic and international BGP tables + 3 GigE interfaces
> peaking at 100Mb/s or so (where the back traffic is a third of that).
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael.
>
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