[AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
Skeeve Stevens
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Thu Mar 5 16:17:06 EST 2009
Yeah, 7201 is 4 * GE + 1 * FE (supposedly for management)
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From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:mmc at internode.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 4:01 PM
To: Skeeve Stevens
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
I was thinking of the 7201 which has 4 GE but indeed NPE-G2s are 3xGE.
MMC
On 05/03/2009, at 3:27 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Also, you probably mean extra FE (0/2)
G1:
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
interface GigabitEthernet0/3
G2:
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
interface FastEthernet0/2
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
interface GigabitEthernet0/3
Which you will note is inserted between the 1st and 2nd GigE for some drug induced reason.
...Skeeve
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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 3:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
For "much faster VPN" read "much faster CPU".
Trying to think about too many things at once.
MMC
On 05/03/2009, at 2:50 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
Skeeve's recommendation is a good one:
7206VXR-NPE-G1s are the swiss army knife - well debugged, well understood, easy to obtain parts new and after market and will be supported for a long time to come and easily handle full BGP tables.
Even though they're no longer something we use in our core they are now excellent PE routers for terminating customer sessions or smaller LNSes etc. We've got a frightening number still humming away and unlikely to be replaced. Because of this Cisco are unlikely to EOL them for a LONG time to come (think of the ROI of that platform for them).
(We've got many dozens - I wouldn't want to try and count - it'd take too long).
The news G2s are nice as they have an extra GE port and much faster VPN BUT remember they need SFPs (SFP slots only for 2 of the ports).
MMC
On 05/03/2009, at 2:15 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
7200-G1 - 512mb mtp (max throughput)
7200-G2 - 1024mb mtp
They have 3 * GE
2851 with an extra GE would be pushing it with 112mb mtp
3825 - need two extra gig ports - 179 mtp
3845 - need two extra gig ports - 256 mtp
A G1 which can either be in 7200 form or 7301 form.
A G2 can be in 7204/6 form or 7201 form.
HWIC-GE cards are more expensive that PA-GE's.
My recommendation is a 7204VXR-NPE-G1 for cost, expandability (can go to 4 GE - maybe 5 if the bandwidth points aren't counted from slot 0 NPE), or a G2 if you can afford it.
...Skeeve
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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-
bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Michael Bethune
Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 1:17 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] back of envelope sizing calculations
Hiya,
Just doing some back of the envelope calculations and I was wondering
if
anyone had some ball park ideas?
What kind of non-end of life Cisco router model could
handle domestic and international BGP tables + 3 GigE interfaces
peaking at 100Mb/s or so (where the back traffic is a third of that).
Thanks
Michael.
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