[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Steve Baxter]

> AUIX sounds fitting.

Maybe it could also run a giant squid cache that sells traffic for 1c
per MB ? The cache would be a clean feed obviously :-)

SB

> 
> On 16/12/2009, at 5:56 PM, Steve Baxter wrote:
> 
> > NISP
> > AUIX
> > AusBone
> > SIX
> > BIX
> > VIX
> >
> > What will you call it ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > SB
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
> >> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:30 PM
> >> To: Adrian Chadd; Daragh Mc Grath
> >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> >>
> >> This is a concept which I have been considering in depth for about 
> >> two years now.
> >>
> >> It's gone as far as a planning stage, but we pulled back in the 
> >> belief that, as a commercial organization, we do not add any value 
> >> over current commercial operations - put quite simply, 
> it's a "nice 
> >> to have" but as an commercial venture it is doomed to 
> failure (this 
> >> is a testament to the quality of PIPE's product).
> >>
> >> I am both willing and able to participate, whether it be 
> financially 
> >> or through the provision of space (co-location or
> >> otherwise) to make a venture such as this a reality.
> >>
> >> Anyone in Brisbane who is *serious* about making this happen can 
> >> contact me either on or off list - I am happy to provide 
> resources, 
> >> strategic direction or moral support (whatever is most 
> needed) and I 
> >> don't doubt there are others like me willing to support 
> this kind of 
> >> operation.
> >>
> >> Curtis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Adrian Chadd
> >> Sent: Wed 12/16/2009 4:11 PM
> >> To: Daragh Mc Grath
> >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
> >>> I'm glad to see this discussion has been kicked off here, it's 
> >>> something I've thought about on and off over the past few years.
> >>>
> >>> Having worked for a major European exchange in the past 
> (LINX) I've 
> >>> been disappointed by the approach to peering here in
> >> Australia since I
> >>> moved around 2 years ago. Not having the big telco's present at 
> >>> exchange points is the obvious cause, and given their
> >> willingness to
> >>> participate at other exchange points around the world but
> >> not at home, this is disappointing.
> >>
> >> There's reasons for this.
> >>
> >>> I believe that unless you have the major players engaged, an 
> >>> alternative exchange is not going to happen (or may do, but
> >> won't be
> >>> as successful as it should!). The best way of trying to
> >> encourage that
> >>> is for an exchange to be setup as outlined by MMC, mutually
> >> owned and
> >>> most importantly, operate as a not for profit. To quote
> >> LINX, existing for the good of the internet.
> >>>
> >>> I will be following this thread with interest.
> >>
> >> The large telcos don't peer publicly because they want to sell 
> >> transit.
> >> Larger ISPs that started peering when they were smaller ISPs are 
> >> waking up to this.
> >>
> >> ISPs in the European/American markets have woken up to this.
> >> You can't necessarily get peering with everyone these days.
> >> The telco's may be at an IX but they won't peer with you 
> at it. The 
> >> reason the large telco's were historically at the AU IXes 
> is because 
> >> of the MLPA mandate.
> >> It does not at all mean they do not peer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Adrian
> >>
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> ~~~
> Regards,
> Mark Caetano
> Managing Director
> Akami Hosting/Dominium Systems
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