[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Skeeve Stevens]

No APE (Auckland Peering Exchange)  which Vocus is on... would confuse the crap out of things.

...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Sean K. Finn
> Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 1:17 PM
> To: 'Mark Smith'; 'Steve Baxter'
> Cc: 'ausnog at ausnog.net'
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> 
> APE.
> 
> Australian Peering Exchange.
> 
> Or APEx.
> 
> Australian Peering EXchange.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
> Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:07 PM
> To: Steve Baxter
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> 
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:17:30 +1000
> "Steve Baxter" <steve at thebaxters.com> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > AWIX - Australian Wide Internet Exchange
> >
> > Sure - you could hook it up with the modern equivilent of 256k frame
> > relay!
> >
> > I do not apologise if I sound cynical but having been down this road
> > many times before I really suggest that all who look at it consider
> the
> > history of what has been before else you may be doomed to repeat
> > failures.
> >
> 
> From what I understand, they collapsed because of disagreements between
> members.
> 
> A trusted third party who has a commercial motivation to keep everybody
> happy would seem to be a better model. I suspect it's been done quite
> successfully before. I suggest not calling it Public Internet
> Peering Exchange though.
> 
> If the ISPs around Australia do want to try to go down this path again,
> I'd suggest setting up something like a separate commercial entity that
> has it's own financial/commercial agenda and management etc. that the
> ISPs have shareholdings in and maintain an arms-length relationship
> with.
> 
> A commercial structure may not be the best one for this, others such
> as a trust structure might be an alternative. I think the key thing to
> ensure with the possible structure is that there is an overriding tie
> breaker if disputes between shareholding ISPs arise, with "whats best
> for the profitability of the peering company" being an example of one.
> 
> > SB
> >
> > >
> > > Your Thoughts?
> > >
> >
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