[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Adrian Chadd]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009, Steve Baxter wrote:
> 
> > AUIX sounds fitting.
> 
> Maybe it could also run a giant squid cache that sells traffic for 1c
> per MB ? The cache would be a clean feed obviously :-)

With a magic, combined index in the middle!


Adrian

> 
> SB
> 
> > 
> > On 16/12/2009, at 5:56 PM, Steve Baxter wrote:
> > 
> > > NISP
> > > AUIX
> > > AusBone
> > > SIX
> > > BIX
> > > VIX
> > >
> > > What will you call it ?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > SB
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
> > >> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:30 PM
> > >> To: Adrian Chadd; Daragh Mc Grath
> > >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> > >>
> > >> This is a concept which I have been considering in depth for about 
> > >> two years now.
> > >>
> > >> It's gone as far as a planning stage, but we pulled back in the 
> > >> belief that, as a commercial organization, we do not add any value 
> > >> over current commercial operations - put quite simply, 
> > it's a "nice 
> > >> to have" but as an commercial venture it is doomed to 
> > failure (this 
> > >> is a testament to the quality of PIPE's product).
> > >>
> > >> I am both willing and able to participate, whether it be 
> > financially 
> > >> or through the provision of space (co-location or
> > >> otherwise) to make a venture such as this a reality.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone in Brisbane who is *serious* about making this happen can 
> > >> contact me either on or off list - I am happy to provide 
> > resources, 
> > >> strategic direction or moral support (whatever is most 
> > needed) and I 
> > >> don't doubt there are others like me willing to support 
> > this kind of 
> > >> operation.
> > >>
> > >> Curtis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Adrian Chadd
> > >> Sent: Wed 12/16/2009 4:11 PM
> > >> To: Daragh Mc Grath
> > >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
> > >>> I'm glad to see this discussion has been kicked off here, it's 
> > >>> something I've thought about on and off over the past few years.
> > >>>
> > >>> Having worked for a major European exchange in the past 
> > (LINX) I've 
> > >>> been disappointed by the approach to peering here in
> > >> Australia since I
> > >>> moved around 2 years ago. Not having the big telco's present at 
> > >>> exchange points is the obvious cause, and given their
> > >> willingness to
> > >>> participate at other exchange points around the world but
> > >> not at home, this is disappointing.
> > >>
> > >> There's reasons for this.
> > >>
> > >>> I believe that unless you have the major players engaged, an 
> > >>> alternative exchange is not going to happen (or may do, but
> > >> won't be
> > >>> as successful as it should!). The best way of trying to
> > >> encourage that
> > >>> is for an exchange to be setup as outlined by MMC, mutually
> > >> owned and
> > >>> most importantly, operate as a not for profit. To quote
> > >> LINX, existing for the good of the internet.
> > >>>
> > >>> I will be following this thread with interest.
> > >>
> > >> The large telcos don't peer publicly because they want to sell 
> > >> transit.
> > >> Larger ISPs that started peering when they were smaller ISPs are 
> > >> waking up to this.
> > >>
> > >> ISPs in the European/American markets have woken up to this.
> > >> You can't necessarily get peering with everyone these days.
> > >> The telco's may be at an IX but they won't peer with you 
> > at it. The 
> > >> reason the large telco's were historically at the AU IXes 
> > is because 
> > >> of the MLPA mandate.
> > >> It does not at all mean they do not peer.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Adrian
> > >>
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