[AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

[Nick Brown]

Heh, Interesting. I wonder how many CDN's have cached something in  
Australia that originated from the states that is actually RC here?


On 16/12/2009, at 1:43 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:

> Very good point.
>
> But, Google is on peering, and those servers aren't in .au are they?  
> (or possibly not)..
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
>> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 1:18 PM
>> To: Skeeve Stevens; Nick Brown; ausnog at ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
>>
>> It's illegal to host RC content in Australia.  So (domestic) peering
>> should be clean anyway.
>>
>> [b]
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>>> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:06 AM
>>> To: Nick Brown; ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
>>>
>>> It is interesting.  If the carriers have to do it... maybe
>>> the downstreams don't, saving a lot of money.
>>>
>>> But, then we need to consider peering... argghhhh *head in sand*
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
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>>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
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>>> 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ;
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>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
>>>> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick Brown
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:56 AM
>>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
>>>>
>>>> I've been trying to get an answer on this for months and
>>> every time I
>>>> ask heads go into the sand..
>>>>
>>>> While I don't anticipate a backlash from RESDSL customers (VISPs or
>>>> direct retail) or even BUSDSL customers (Where the service is
>>>> specifically *not* being used as backhaul - don't forget their are
>>>> alot of regional ISPs that have their Wireless, Dial or even DSL
>>>> customers hanging of low end SHDSL services) I envision that if we
>>>> were to tell transit customers that they can expect their
>>> packets to
>>>> be messed with, knives would be thrown - and I wouldn't
>>> blame them for
>>>> doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Nick.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/12/2009, at 11:36 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Question,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know the finer points of this proposal...
>>> meaning... is
>>>>> it aimed/directed at consumer/retail ISP's - which seems
>>> to be their
>>>>> justification - or to all ISP's who sell connectivity..
>>> and what is
>>>>> the flow down effect?
>>>>>
>>>>> I.e.  Does Vocus have to do this? Does Telstra Direct?
>>> If I have an
>>>>> ISP we manage who has say both of those as transit providers, who
>>>>> are (?) filtered, do we then have to worry as the
>>> upstreams are?  It
>>>>> would be kind of redundant?
>>>>>
>>>>> So, let's ponder that companies like Vocus, MCI, etc who
>>> only sell
>>>>> transit to businesses... or a business focused ISP - do
>>> they have to
>>>>> filter?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some Micro sized ISP's - like PowerTel partners
>>> and alike...
>>>>> do they have to filter?  They only have a few hundred connections
>>>>> and only to businesses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just pondering eintellego's response, but don't actually see
>>>>> anything that differentiates what an ISP is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
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