[AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

[Skeeve Stevens]

Very good point.

But, Google is on peering, and those servers aren't in .au are they? (or possibly not)..

...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 1:18 PM
> To: Skeeve Stevens; Nick Brown; ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
> 
> It's illegal to host RC content in Australia.  So (domestic) peering
> should be clean anyway.
> 
> [b]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> > [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:06 AM
> > To: Nick Brown; ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
> >
> > It is interesting.  If the carriers have to do it... maybe
> > the downstreams don't, saving a lot of money.
> >
> > But, then we need to consider peering... argghhhh *head in sand*
> >
> > ...Skeeve
> >
> > --
> > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> > skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414
> > 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ;
> > facebook.com/eintellego
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> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> > > bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick Brown
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:56 AM
> > > To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
> > >
> > > I've been trying to get an answer on this for months and
> > every time I
> > > ask heads go into the sand..
> > >
> > > While I don't anticipate a backlash from RESDSL customers (VISPs or
> > > direct retail) or even BUSDSL customers (Where the service is
> > > specifically *not* being used as backhaul - don't forget their are
> > > alot of regional ISPs that have their Wireless, Dial or even DSL
> > > customers hanging of low end SHDSL services) I envision that if we
> > > were to tell transit customers that they can expect their
> > packets to
> > > be messed with, knives would be thrown - and I wouldn't
> > blame them for
> > > doing so.
> > >
> > > Nick.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16/12/2009, at 11:36 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > >
> > > > Question,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know the finer points of this proposal...
> > meaning... is
> > > > it aimed/directed at consumer/retail ISP's - which seems
> > to be their
> > > > justification - or to all ISP's who sell connectivity..
> > and what is
> > > > the flow down effect?
> > > >
> > > > I.e.  Does Vocus have to do this? Does Telstra Direct?
> > If I have an
> > > > ISP we manage who has say both of those as transit providers, who
> > > > are (?) filtered, do we then have to worry as the
> > upstreams are?  It
> > > > would be kind of redundant?
> > > >
> > > > So, let's ponder that companies like Vocus, MCI, etc who
> > only sell
> > > > transit to businesses... or a business focused ISP - do
> > they have to
> > > > filter?
> > > >
> > > > I have some Micro sized ISP's - like PowerTel partners
> > and alike...
> > > > do they have to filter?  They only have a few hundred connections
> > > > and only to businesses.
> > > >
> > > > Just pondering eintellego's response, but don't actually see
> > > > anything that differentiates what an ISP is.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The
> > > > Networking Specialists skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
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> > (0)414 753 383 /
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