[AusNOG] IPv4 Exhaustion, APNIC EC, and James is a nice bloke ; -)

James Spenceley james at vocus.com.au
Sun Jul 20 22:27:29 EST 2008


>>
>> As for IPv4 exhaustion - can someone please get some sanity and pull
>> back some of the address space given back in the days when Yoda was
>> playing soccer with Jesus for Jerusalem?
>
> The RIR's looked at doing this a couple of years ago and concluded  
> that
> the amount of time and effort it'd take would outweigh the time and
> effort required to migrate to v6.

had a go at this once ....

http://www.iroute.org/Site/presso/apricot-feb-2000.pdf

The view at that time was that while there was little or no  
documentation around how an allocation was made, it was essentially  
give as property. While possible to reclaim such space, the second  
value was placed on address space (and potentially big value) it would  
get messy.  Fast forward to today and we'll soon see real value placed  
on address space.

http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-050-v002.html

I've polled a number of people, but around $10,000 for a /24 seems  
like a potentially reasonable figure.

Which could give an historically assigned /16 a value of around ~ 
$2.5M, with a /8 potentially worth ~$655M. That's not a value that  
many people would consider giving away (nor would their shareholders  
understand).


> Mark Newton                               Email:  newton at internode.com.au


--
James

PS: Makes the Level3 purchase of Genuity's assets (tier 1 peering,  
40,000 customers and of course 4.0.0.0/8) for $240M look like a pretty  
good deal :-)




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