[AusNOG] Here we go - Presto is now live.

Robert Hudson hudrob at gmail.com
Fri Jan 16 14:22:44 EST 2015

I tend to agree.

Right now, there's multicast channels (it's quite amusing to get the
"Foxtel Exclusive" branding all over channels that aren't exclusively on
Foxtel), but they're still pre-programmed.  There's some on-demand content
(catchup TV), and you can rent movies (not cheaply, and you pay a premium
for HD), but given I can get a whole bunch of services (such as NetFlix) to
talk to my TV direct now, and even the FreeTV Plus stuff, meaning catchup
TV is available directly on the TV rather than via a separate device),
FetchTV is in danger of becoming an expensive PVR (and given the paltry 1TB
capacity, not a terrbily good one).

TiVo effectively died here, Fetch may go the same way...

On 16 January 2015 at 14:15, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com>

> Honestly... (and I expect a negative response to this)... I see FetchTV as
> dead...  Even more so than Foxtel - unless they do something quick.  They
> are about as relevant as Quickflix.
> Nothing against them... but anyone not OTT'ing is dead in my
> prediction.... Foxtel has at least a massive (declining) customer base...
> FetchTV will need to innovate or die... and I don't see them having the
> funding unless they team up (Channel 10 is left? But do they have any $$).
> If Presto continue to be only on Telstra bandwidth... I would expect ISPs
> to advertise against that... and potentially there could be market unfair
> advantage here by Telstra.
> I understand and agree with what John Lindsay said... but Telstra's
> dominance will become an unfair advantage IMHO.
> ...Skeeve
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> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> FetchTV is picking up a whole range of different channels instead of the
>> Discovery set.  Whether that's a good or a bad deal is another story - I
>> note that iiNet/Internode have offered to let people out of contract
>> without charge (the price also goes up as of February), so I suspect they
>> feel a good number of customers may see it as a bad deal.
>> Yes, this means I have FetchTV - given the limitations of the box (1TB
>> hard drive, and I've not found a way to successfully hack a larger drive
>> in), I'm watching what's coming closely - FetchTV will have to evolve, or
>> it will die...
>> On 16 January 2015 at 12:01, Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com> wrote:
>>>  This is the major issue, and which is why Netflix will be so important
>>> to watch since they are the most neutral service.
>>> It could just be that they get zero content from channel 7 and 9 though.
>>> I noticed FetchTV was losing the Discovery set of channels as of Feb 1.
>>> Presto doesn't seem to have any Discovery content either.
>>> Does anyone know what is going on there? Did one of these new players
>>> get exclusivity?
>>> On 16/01/15 11:53, Robert Hudson wrote:
>>> I have to say, this doesn't excite me considerably.
>>>  The reason - the programming (or lack thereof) - I found there were
>>> more things that I'd want to watch that aren't on this service than things
>>> that are on this service.  Maybe they'll add more stuff (and broaden what's
>>> available) over time - but I don't see that each channel selling online
>>> access to their own content on their own paid service being particularly
>>> valuable.  I'd much rather pay for a service that takes contents from
>>> multiple channels/networks and makes it all available to me in one place.
>>>  It's widely acknowledged by everyone BUT the content owners that the
>>> reason that people pirate their content is that they make it so damned
>>> difficult to access that it's easier to pirate it than jump through the
>>> hoops of acquiring it legally.  In my mind, at this stage, this service
>>> doesn't fix that unless all you're interested in is content that
>>> Fox/Channel 7 have rights to.
>>> On 15 January 2015 at 23:34, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  So, here we go... the first of the three are now online.
>>>>  Foxtel & Channel 7's Presto has launched - https://www.presto.com.au/
>>>>  News Release:
>>>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/presto-entertainment-launches-for-1499-a-month/story-fn8tnfhb-1227185706539
>>>>  TV only - $9.99
>>>> Movies only - $9.99
>>>> Both - $14.99
>>>>  I've just signed up to give it a test.  I love one question on the
>>>> signup "I don't want my information passed to our Foxtel Partners (Telstra
>>>> and News Ltd)." - Love it - TICK!
>>>>  One note at the bottom of the news article was interesting: "The joint
>>>> venture between Foxtel and Channel 7 is still awaiting regulatory approval
>>>> via the ACCC."  Waiting approval but launched?
>>>>    ...Skeeve
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