[AusNOG] Here we go - Presto is now live.

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com
Fri Jan 16 14:34:56 EST 2015

That was one of the posts I did the other day.

Obviously Set Top Boxes (STB) need to rise again.... and I don't mean the
big things.  I call Apple TV, Roku 3, Boxee Box and maybe even ChromeCast a
STB... still a device.. just smaller.

I've noted that Presto has a Samsung App... but it is just a link to their
Android App via the Samsung Store - not an actual Samsung TV app (which I'd
like)... but now they are moving full on to Tizen - means more dev for
people most likely.

Cricket Australia just launched an app in AppleTV - not sure how that works
as I thought (vanilla) AppleTV's were static for the most part without an
App Store (I'd love it if they did have an App Store).

My Roku 3 is awesome - fast, nice, simple.. I'd like to see the SVOD
players have apps for this (Netflix does).  The Amazon Fire TV (
http://www.amazon.com/Fire-TV-streaming-media-player/dp/B00CX5P8FC) is
awesome... but I don't think sold here yet.

That is another player I expect to see here soon... Amazon Prime - I
already use it on my Roku 3 and they have some great TV series.  Cost US$99
per year (

In some ways they are way more developed than Netflix... with books, music,
and a pile more. Netflix, Stan and Presto... don't complete in some of
those areas... only Apple perhaps?

Speaking of them... I guess Apple will start to play in this space soon?



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On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:

> I tend to agree.
> Right now, there's multicast channels (it's quite amusing to get the
> "Foxtel Exclusive" branding all over channels that aren't exclusively on
> Foxtel), but they're still pre-programmed.  There's some on-demand content
> (catchup TV), and you can rent movies (not cheaply, and you pay a premium
> for HD), but given I can get a whole bunch of services (such as NetFlix) to
> talk to my TV direct now, and even the FreeTV Plus stuff, meaning catchup
> TV is available directly on the TV rather than via a separate device),
> FetchTV is in danger of becoming an expensive PVR (and given the paltry 1TB
> capacity, not a terrbily good one).
> TiVo effectively died here, Fetch may go the same way...
> On 16 January 2015 at 14:15, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com>
> wrote:
>> Honestly... (and I expect a negative response to this)... I see FetchTV
>> as dead...  Even more so than Foxtel - unless they do something quick.
>> They are about as relevant as Quickflix.
>> Nothing against them... but anyone not OTT'ing is dead in my
>> prediction.... Foxtel has at least a massive (declining) customer base...
>> FetchTV will need to innovate or die... and I don't see them having the
>> funding unless they team up (Channel 10 is left? But do they have any $$).
>> If Presto continue to be only on Telstra bandwidth... I would expect ISPs
>> to advertise against that... and potentially there could be market unfair
>> advantage here by Telstra.
>> I understand and agree with what John Lindsay said... but Telstra's
>> dominance will become an unfair advantage IMHO.
>> ...Skeeve
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>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> FetchTV is picking up a whole range of different channels instead of the
>>> Discovery set.  Whether that's a good or a bad deal is another story - I
>>> note that iiNet/Internode have offered to let people out of contract
>>> without charge (the price also goes up as of February), so I suspect they
>>> feel a good number of customers may see it as a bad deal.
>>> Yes, this means I have FetchTV - given the limitations of the box (1TB
>>> hard drive, and I've not found a way to successfully hack a larger drive
>>> in), I'm watching what's coming closely - FetchTV will have to evolve, or
>>> it will die...
>>> On 16 January 2015 at 12:01, Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com> wrote:
>>>>  This is the major issue, and which is why Netflix will be so important
>>>> to watch since they are the most neutral service.
>>>> It could just be that they get zero content from channel 7 and 9 though.
>>>> I noticed FetchTV was losing the Discovery set of channels as of Feb 1.
>>>> Presto doesn't seem to have any Discovery content either.
>>>> Does anyone know what is going on there? Did one of these new players
>>>> get exclusivity?
>>>> On 16/01/15 11:53, Robert Hudson wrote:
>>>> I have to say, this doesn't excite me considerably.
>>>>  The reason - the programming (or lack thereof) - I found there were
>>>> more things that I'd want to watch that aren't on this service than things
>>>> that are on this service.  Maybe they'll add more stuff (and broaden what's
>>>> available) over time - but I don't see that each channel selling online
>>>> access to their own content on their own paid service being particularly
>>>> valuable.  I'd much rather pay for a service that takes contents from
>>>> multiple channels/networks and makes it all available to me in one place.
>>>>  It's widely acknowledged by everyone BUT the content owners that the
>>>> reason that people pirate their content is that they make it so damned
>>>> difficult to access that it's easier to pirate it than jump through the
>>>> hoops of acquiring it legally.  In my mind, at this stage, this service
>>>> doesn't fix that unless all you're interested in is content that
>>>> Fox/Channel 7 have rights to.
>>>> On 15 January 2015 at 23:34, Skeeve Stevens <
>>>> skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>  So, here we go... the first of the three are now online.
>>>>>  Foxtel & Channel 7's Presto has launched - https://www.presto.com.au/
>>>>>  News Release:
>>>>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/presto-entertainment-launches-for-1499-a-month/story-fn8tnfhb-1227185706539
>>>>>  TV only - $9.99
>>>>> Movies only - $9.99
>>>>> Both - $14.99
>>>>>  I've just signed up to give it a test.  I love one question on the
>>>>> signup "I don't want my information passed to our Foxtel Partners (Telstra
>>>>> and News Ltd)." - Love it - TICK!
>>>>>  One note at the bottom of the news article was interesting: "The
>>>>> joint venture between Foxtel and Channel 7 is still awaiting regulatory
>>>>> approval via the ACCC."  Waiting approval but launched?
>>>>>    ...Skeeve
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