[AusNOG] IPv6: Where's my tunnel?

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Fri Mar 8 16:39:34 EST 2013


Might be a lot of work involved, might be recouping costs for previous
work, might be a 5 minute job that requires going up and down the chain and
therefore costing the company such a setup fee.

As Mark suggested "Why are you people continuing to reward providers of
IPv4-only transit by giving them money?". Maybe suggest to them that you
will move to another provider, that might get them to drop the setup fee
(which I assume must be substantial?)?

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Matt Richards <matt at shakesbeare.com> wrote:

>  On 8/03/2013 10:53 a.m., Matt Richards wrote:
>
> On 7/03/2013 10:45 p.m., Mark Newton wrote:
>
>
>  I don't get it.
>
>  Why are you people continuing to reward providers of IPv4-only transit
> by giving them money?
>
>  Tunnels were a 2008 thing.  Unless you're talking about consumer
> broadband (which remains restrictive), there have been so many options for
> dual-stack transit for so long that there's very little excuse to not have
> at least ONE upstream link running it.
>
>  Probably at least one of your upstreams actually *does* support it, but
> you haven't asked them to turn it on.
>
>  Aren't you building IPv6 into your purchasing decisions anyway?
>
>     - mark
>
>
> Sadly, transit choice isn't up to me, otherwise we'd be using v6-capable
> transit providers. When we went shopping for transit, Internode was 5 times
> the price of the company we went with. And no, I've asked our upstreams.
> They don't have it.
>
> I've made sure our network hardware can do v6. I'm just waiting on our
> upstreams. However, we do need more bandwidth, so I'm trying to talk my
> bosses into a new provider (who just happens to be able to do v6...)
>
> Matt.
>
>
> So I thought I'd ask my upstreams again if they could now support v6. One
> of them came back with yes! Sadly, they want to charge a setup fee as
> there's 'quite a bit of work involved'.
>
> Matt.
>
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