[AusNOG] Aust Govt will build National Broadband Network, no company will be awarded the tender.

Noel Butler noel.butler at ausics.net
Tue Apr 14 10:18:37 EST 2009

My final on this,even though I only popped in as a passing comment, if
you want to continue replies to me, you are welcome to offlist

On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 09:13, lists wrote:

>         if thats your attitude, I guess we should let it be a warning
>         for anyone who considers working for pipe networks.
>         Every employer should have the right to expect some loyalty
>         from their staff.  Staff are certainly entitled to their point
>         of view, however sometimes they shoud get thier employers
>         point of view and at least consider the ramifications.   ie
>         they may not have a job in some situations.  

If thats your belief Tim, then we might as well close this list now, to
all except CEO's :)

>         Newsflash and its about time every F'n exec on this list took
>         reminder of, your employees are NOT you, they are NOT an
>         extension of your brain nor your line of thoughts, they are
>         NOT 
>         as narrow visioned as you are, 
>         Give me a break.  Those employers and execs have a far wider
>         view of the business than any employee.  If all the bits
>         including the business case do not stack up the employee does 
>         not have a job.  Then employees complain because they are out
>         of a job.  Look at pacific 

Not completely true at all, many employers think they know better then
those who they pay to advise them on such matters, I could cite cases,
but some people on this list might get their egos bashed, and I do have
respect for those people,  and, as David has asked everyone to play
nice, I will refrain  (something I'm not known for, as those who know me
will tell you, *sigh* I must be gettin old)...

I agree the ramifications should be considered, so long as there is no
direct inference I see no problem, like if someone came out and said
publicly  "I think my boss is a $%#$ he should never have participated
in project X",  posted with an employers email account and sig, then
that calls for a please tone it down, and "whilst we are at it, why do
you think its a bad idea i publicly support project X" .. if you can
back it up, no problem, if your just bad mouthing your employer for the
sake of it,  then you should be told "it seems our company is not really
the right place for you, dont you agree" :)  Everything must be
considered, including the context in which it was said.

Whilst we are at it,  David, can you get this lists reply-to set ? I
mean , we are all on here, and none of us need 2 copies of everything :)


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